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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 yagan
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    28 standing ovations for netenyahu from across the floor of a joint session of Congress and Senate confirms that. The national stance, perhaps exempting a few voices is very much pro Palestine extermination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 yagan
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    Another thought on the iPhone exemptions is that if you're a smartphone assembly and parts business in China you will prioritise clients whose main markets avoid the USA.

    For a start tariff uncertainty could delay collections which block up storage facilities right up the supply line.

    Secondly you'll prefer payment in your own currency rather than holding depreciating US credit notes so Chinese smartphone makers will have the edge there.

    This last week has been a Berlin wall event in global alignment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 sock.rocker*
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    China putting an export tariff on anything the US exempts is the smart thing to do. Make it all the same rate so if Trump wants it lowered for those items, he can back all the way down.

    I would be really surprised if China didn't do this. Their moment of maximum leverage is now. And it should be a "reciprocal" tariff of 145%, not 125%.

    The entire world should be rooting for China right now to get rid of this tariffs nonsense before it gets going.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 sock.rocker*
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    The announcement was made late on Friday in a US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) notice that said the devices would be excluded from the 10% global tariff that Trump recently imposed on most countries, along with the much heftier import tax on China.

    Absolute coward.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,361 Strazdas
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    Yes, that would be a clever move. Not allow Trump to cherry pick his way through a trade war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,897 aloyisious
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    When it does come to pass, it will be a pointer to see how many foreign heads of state embassies offer their condolences or attend his funeral, given his stated opinions about them. Ditto for former US presidents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 pad406
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    I get what you mean, but 77m other people voted for him too.

    This far right has been very prevalent in the US for a number of years, just bubbling under the surface. Most visitors never see it, NY, DC, California, Vegas, even Orlando are not the places you'll come across it.

    Go to almost anywhere inland, places where they call it United States of Merica not United States of America.

    Now they have a big loud voice to 'represent' them. What were whispers and said in private settings can be shouted from the rooftops, you can proudly declare all that you are, because those at the top are shouting and screaming it too. It's now socially acceptable to lash out at immigrants, LGBQT+ etc. Really shows their Christian values, huh?

    They don't care about the lies, they want someone to 'hear' them. The fact that the someone is only pretending to hear them will become a problem, but it's gonna take another while for that to sink in. It'll probably start with the hangers on, the 'new' converts. Whether it'll rise to the glorious one, is another question. What happens if it does is anyone's guess.

    The USA had not been United for a long time, there's 2 very different countries and cultures under that umbrella.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 sock.rocker*
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    Just as long as it's only for goods going to the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,901 8-10
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    So is he saying he doesn't want electronics manufactured in America? Just cars and clothes?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 Glencarraig
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    They must be if they allowed Mouth McGregor through !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 sock.rocker*
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    Exactly what I was about to post. So much for bringing back high tech industry.

    I think the day Fox started explaining tariffs was around the time Trump finally understood that Americans pay the tariff. Yes, it was the bond market as well, but the timing matches perfectly for Republicans finally understanding this basic economic concept.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,552 walshb
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    Trump and his supporters don’t seem t realize that the war they’re perpetuating isn’t against other countries and other people, it against themselves and their supposed to be United States



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,361 Strazdas
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    He clearly hasn't a clue what he is doing. Announces huge decisions on a whim and then the flunkies have to point out he has messed up and he does a quick U-turn. A part of me wonders if he can even survive the four years being so grossly incompetent, there never has been such a gormless fool in the White House.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 sock.rocker*
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    These finished exempt products now have a 0% tariff but the raw materials to manufacture them in America have a 10% / 145% tariff, which will result in manufacturing leaving the US.

    Post edited by sock.rocker* on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 dasdog
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    Along with smartphones and computers

    Semiconductors
    Solar cells
    Flat panel TV displays
    Flash drives
    Memory cards
    

    Somehow I think that list might be added to. The phrase "think before you open your mouth" springs to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 Igotadose
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    sorry, but that's by the standards here. By the standards of the people who think they're not right-wing in America, there is. And the educational establishment - especially teacher's unions teaching up to University level, and college and beyond, they (at least a majority) believe they're on the left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,964 VinLieger
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    Well this just shows that eventually the list of whats actually is tariffed will be the size of a post-it note



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,598 10000maniacs
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    Edit, somebody posted this earlier. But here's the actual document.

    Looks like Trump has blinked first with his Tariff war with China. Checkmate to China.

    He has now amended the bill very quietly without any fanfare hoping people won't notice.

    It appears to exempt smartphones, computers and other electronics from most of the president’s punishing tariffs on China, giving tech companies like Apple and Dell a break from levies that threatened to upend their businesses and increase prices for consumers. He seems to have amended this April 5th document.

    CSMS # 64724565 - UPDATED GUIDANCE – Reciprocal Tariff Exclusion for Specified Products; April 5, 2025 Effective Date



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,051 Tell me how
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    Remember in the Presidential campaign, Trump and his team made a big deal of the flooding that happened in North Carolina and accused Biden of having abandoned the state.

    This is what is now happening.

    https://ncnewsline.com/2025/04/12/fema-will-stop-matching-100-of-helene-recovery-money-in-nc-stein-says/

    FEMA will stop matching 100% of Helene recovery money in North Carolina

    Gov. Stein: ‘I am extremely disappointed and urge the President to reconsider FEMA’s bad decision, even for 90 days.’

    Interesting choice of words by the Governor there, implying the administration has shown it is capable of pausing decisions for 90 days for international matters, so what about for national ones.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 yagan
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    All the world will now demand the same exemptions that Apple have gotten for their phones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,598 10000maniacs
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    Trump opened up a can of worms with his liberation day tariffs that he is struggling to close shut.

    Even if the bond market recovers which it won't any time soon, he is in serious trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 nachouser
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    "We've made deals, so many beautiful, perfect… the computer in Elon's car, so many deals… Chyna, Chyna is coming to us… we're making a deal with Chyna for Tim Apple… they don't grow apples in Chyna so we'll put a beautiful tariff on our apples to Chyna… and the Ukraine… we're taking the gas from the Ukraine… they don't need it and… it's beautiful gas, they have some of the most beautiful gas."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 Oscar_Madison
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    America is fast becoming a world tyrant - Rape and pillage , just like it’s President - and sticking a dumb blonde hypocrite as your spokesperson press secretary doesn’t change that either .


    US ‘demands control’ from Ukraine of key pipeline carrying Russian gas


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,044 briany
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    Trump falling foul of the old rule - "Don't mess with the money."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 eire4
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    While it is another climb down on tariffs todays exemptions on computers smartphones etc from China it is not a full tariff relief for those products which still face his original 20% China tariffs. So all that has happened today for US consumers is the products have gone from being priced out of the US market to they will still be on sale but at a significantly higher price given the tariff still in place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,044 briany
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    Wait, this sounds like there's even less incentive to move manufacturing to the US than before Trump took office.

    Luckily for Trump, his base will think that's a great thing if he tells them so. He's lucky they're so brainwashed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,775 breezy1985
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    "The biggest climb down ever by a president. No other president would climb down so bigly. Biden wouldn't have had such an awesome climb down. Obama no way. The most awesome president ever with such a great climb down."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 Paulzx
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    I wonder do the Maga heads feel less liberated now?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,044 briany
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