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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Just as long as it's only for goods going to the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,353 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    So is he saying he doesn't want electronics manufactured in America? Just cars and clothes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    They must be if they allowed Mouth McGregor through !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Exactly what I was about to post. So much for bringing back high tech industry.

    I think the day Fox started explaining tariffs was around the time Trump finally understood that Americans pay the tariff. Yes, it was the bond market as well, but the timing matches perfectly for Republicans finally understanding this basic economic concept.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,934 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Trump and his supporters don’t seem t realize that the war they’re perpetuating isn’t against other countries and other people, it against themselves and their supposed to be United States



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,140 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    He clearly hasn't a clue what he is doing. Announces huge decisions on a whim and then the flunkies have to point out he has messed up and he does a quick U-turn. A part of me wonders if he can even survive the four years being so grossly incompetent, there never has been such a gormless fool in the White House.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    These finished exempt products now have a 0% tariff but the raw materials to manufacture them in America have a 10% / 145% tariff, which will result in manufacturing leaving the US.

    Post edited by sock.rocker* on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Along with smartphones and computers

    Semiconductors
    Solar cells
    Flat panel TV displays
    Flash drives
    Memory cards
    

    Somehow I think that list might be added to. The phrase "think before you open your mouth" springs to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    sorry, but that's by the standards here. By the standards of the people who think they're not right-wing in America, there is. And the educational establishment - especially teacher's unions teaching up to University level, and college and beyond, they (at least a majority) believe they're on the left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Well this just shows that eventually the list of whats actually is tariffed will be the size of a post-it note



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Edit, somebody posted this earlier. But here's the actual document.

    Looks like Trump has blinked first with his Tariff war with China. Checkmate to China.

    He has now amended the bill very quietly without any fanfare hoping people won't notice.

    It appears to exempt smartphones, computers and other electronics from most of the president’s punishing tariffs on China, giving tech companies like Apple and Dell a break from levies that threatened to upend their businesses and increase prices for consumers. He seems to have amended this April 5th document.

    CSMS # 64724565 - UPDATED GUIDANCE – Reciprocal Tariff Exclusion for Specified Products; April 5, 2025 Effective Date



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,829 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Remember in the Presidential campaign, Trump and his team made a big deal of the flooding that happened in North Carolina and accused Biden of having abandoned the state.

    This is what is now happening.

    https://ncnewsline.com/2025/04/12/fema-will-stop-matching-100-of-helene-recovery-money-in-nc-stein-says/

    FEMA will stop matching 100% of Helene recovery money in North Carolina

    Gov. Stein: ‘I am extremely disappointed and urge the President to reconsider FEMA’s bad decision, even for 90 days.’

    Interesting choice of words by the Governor there, implying the administration has shown it is capable of pausing decisions for 90 days for international matters, so what about for national ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    All the world will now demand the same exemptions that Apple have gotten for their phones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Trump opened up a can of worms with his liberation day tariffs that he is struggling to close shut.

    Even if the bond market recovers which it won't any time soon, he is in serious trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭nachouser


    "We've made deals, so many beautiful, perfect… the computer in Elon's car, so many deals… Chyna, Chyna is coming to us… we're making a deal with Chyna for Tim Apple… they don't grow apples in Chyna so we'll put a beautiful tariff on our apples to Chyna… and the Ukraine… we're taking the gas from the Ukraine… they don't need it and… it's beautiful gas, they have some of the most beautiful gas."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    America is fast becoming a world tyrant - Rape and pillage , just like it’s President - and sticking a dumb blonde hypocrite as your spokesperson press secretary doesn’t change that either .


    US ‘demands control’ from Ukraine of key pipeline carrying Russian gas


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump falling foul of the old rule - "Don't mess with the money."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭eire4


    While it is another climb down on tariffs todays exemptions on computers smartphones etc from China it is not a full tariff relief for those products which still face his original 20% China tariffs. So all that has happened today for US consumers is the products have gone from being priced out of the US market to they will still be on sale but at a significantly higher price given the tariff still in place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Wait, this sounds like there's even less incentive to move manufacturing to the US than before Trump took office.

    Luckily for Trump, his base will think that's a great thing if he tells them so. He's lucky they're so brainwashed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,907 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "The biggest climb down ever by a president. No other president would climb down so bigly. Biden wouldn't have had such an awesome climb down. Obama no way. The most awesome president ever with such a great climb down."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    I wonder do the Maga heads feel less liberated now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭briany




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,752 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Liberated from their wealth, liberties and self respect.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭Paulzx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    The time will come when there won’t be a need for Fox News- they’ll just accept without question - as long as our party keeps the rapists and criminals out of America and there’s just two genders and white people without disability get the good jobs, then MAGA can rule for ever. That’s essentially what they’ve voted for and they’re getting it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The base already accepts without question, so Fox News is defunct in that sense. The network just serves to further validate what they already believe and that little dopamine shot the viewers get keeps them tuning in, so the network makes money.

    It's really Fox News who need MAGA. Trump has turned on the network before when they seemed to be trying to distance themselves in the wake of 2020, but the prospect of losing the majority of its viewership to something like Newsmaxx (which sounds like a The Day Today episode) made them abruptly reverse course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,353 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    We're witnessing the Art of the Deal in real life

    Take that China



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,142 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    There was a woman on a vox pop before his first election that stated rather adamantly that he would destroy America.

    Still remember her for some reason,but turns out she may well have been right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,829 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Yeah, I remember reading stories about Rupert Murdoch telling Trump his time was done after 2020, and here we are.

    Fox shelled put nearly a billion in penalties after they got caught in Trumps rigged election nonsense, and he showed he had them by the short hairs.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,781 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Yeah the China tariffs are starting to become the source of ridicule now even amongst more conservative commentators for this very reason. I'd say Navarro will be the fall guy, he will be sacked soon. Trump must be fuming despite the bravado for the cameras.

    Post edited by Sierra Oscar on


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