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Does this work or is it a stupid idea

  • 04-04-2025 11:32PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭


    Ok got a new job and going from working from home with a company car to a 100 mile round trip 3 days a week but have a car allowance.

    Thinking about an Audi etron 55 around 2020 can be got for about 30k.

    I know the range would just about do 2 days but not really. Don't know if there are chargers in the new place.

    Looks like a really nice place to spend a good bit of a week inside driving.

    What do people think or what would be your thinking. I'd put in charger and solar at home.

    On a totally different beast I love the 640d so I wouldn't rule that out either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mick4_2000


    Roads are not the best if that helps make the decision



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭con747


    Have a look at these threads and people might be able to advise. https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226818/best-electricity-plan-for-new-ev-owners#latest

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭_H80_GHT


    You should get to know if the new place has chargers first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Don't even consider an electric car without having guaranteed access to your own charger if you have 100 mile commute 3 times a week. If you try do it publicly, you will end up spending as much as petrol or diesel car and it'll take a bit of time.

    On the etron, it's a really good car to spend some time in, not massively efficient and I know from experience that in certain conditions you won't do 2 of your 100 mile days on one charge even in the 55.

    But with a home charger, go for it. Lot of car for the money and you'll save a good bit on your fuel bill



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mick4_2000


    No I'll put in a home charger with possibly solar all going well



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Do you currently have a car ?

    Of you do, why not just that until you figure out what the charging situation at work is.

    Also, do you have a home charger, or a place to put a home charger?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mick4_2000


    No I have a company car currently so I will need to get something. I can find out next week what they have in the new office as I have until the end of May anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭893bet


    100 mile or 100km?


    brand new Model 3 for 37k will do that twice before needing charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    At the moment you just need the charger and a good cheap 4 hour ev window. Solar can come later.

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mick4_2000


    160KM round trip, I dont like the Tesla I would go with the BYD if I was going that way



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    No reason to not go electric so, you'll do that commute for peanuts.

    For around 30k you have a few good options. The car I'd recommend is Kia EV6 or Hyundai Ioniq 5, you'll get one with plenty of warranty maybe up to 4 years left on the Kia. Longer range than etron by a long way too. I had etron just coming out of warranty so I sold it on, I was just a bit wary of the Audi dealership and parts costs if anything went wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,888 ✭✭✭User1998


    You think a 55 model wouldn’t even do 200 miles on certain days? Assume thats depths of Winter, but still..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    EV Database suggests worst range in winter (highway) is 265km. Mixed 315km. So would be tight alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    That's 320kms, yeah it would struggle at times. I was talking 100kmph plus speeds in winter specifically, its very sensitive to speed as its not aerodynamic at all.

    It will obviously do the commute in OP though and is a nice place to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    If you can get the home charger then you're grand, just charge up the night before you head to work

    I've an EV and do a 130km each way commute once a week, it works as well as any ICE car

    You'll want the home charger ASAP, ideally before the car arrives. The car probably has a charger that connects to a regular socket but they're very slow and likely won't give enough energy overnight

    Definitely worth checking if there's chargers in work, however many workplaces are charging money for them now so it might not be cheaper than charging at home

    One other thing to check is if your new employer is giving you a fuel card and if they'll make a contribution towards electricity instead. The car allowance would probably be meant to cover that anyway but it's worth asking

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    300 miles per week isn't that much. How much do you expect to save on fuel vs other cars that you are considering?

    "Roads are not the best" - the etron weighs 2.5 tonnes and has large alloy wheels, it's not the car that I'd pick for such driving. Also, EVs are evolving rapidly while at the same time batteries in existing cars are degrading. Will you still be satisfied with the car in 2 years' time or will you and others (potential buyers) regard it as "old hat"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,888 ✭✭✭User1998


    An equivalent diesel SUV would burn around €275 per month in fuel at that mileage. Electric would be a fraction of that on the night rate. Servicing costs and motor tax will be higher on the diesel too. Consumable parts such as tyres & suspension will be just as expensive on the EV tho.

    Most battery degradation occurs in the first 3 years. After that its a minuscule amount. The car will be just as saleable/usable in 2 years time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Right, we use kms in this country usually and 300 miles is 480kms which is almost 25k kms commuting to work alone. Add in other little bit of other driving and you are well over twice the national average.

    I'd defo pick an etron for poor roads, it has air suspension. Other reasons I wouldn't pick one but comfort wise, they're the business



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mick4_2000


    I do a nice bit of driving about 20K KM per year outside of the commute



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Bit of quick math gives an annual mileage of 44,000km

    The e-Tron has the aerodynamics of a brick so let's assume a year round average consumption of 250Wh/km

    That gives 11,000kWh of electricity consumption per year

    Assuming you have the 9 hours night rate, I think the cheapest one at the moment is around 12c so that gives €1,320 per year

    Assuming a diesel car gets 5l/100km and diesel averages €1.70/l that comes to €3,740 for diesel

    Math speaks for itself really 😁

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    tyres! EV’s wear out tyres a lot quicker than ICE cars. Bear that in mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Do they? Must have a word with my tyres and tell them to wear more quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Yes, electric vehicles (EVs) tend to wear out tires more quickly than traditional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. There are a few key reasons for this:

    1. Weight: EVs are generally heavier due to their large battery packs. This added weight puts more pressure on the tires, causing them to wear faster.
    2. Torque: EVs deliver instant torque, which allows for quick acceleration. This can lead to more tire stress, especially during aggressive starts or frequent hard acceleration, resulting in increased wear.
    3. Driving Habits: Many EV drivers take advantage of the instant power, which can contribute to faster tire degradation. Regenerative braking, while helpful for energy efficiency, can also shift wear patterns on tires.
    4. Tire Design: Some EVs come with tires optimized for low rolling resistance to maximize range, but these tires may sacrifice durability, leading to quicker wear.

    That said, the extent of the difference depends on factors like the specific EV model, tire type, driving style, and road conditions. For example, a Tesla Model 3 might go through tires in 20,000-30,000 miles, while an ICE vehicle with similar usage might get closer to 40,000 miles from a comparable set. Manufacturers like Michelin and Continental are developing EV-specific tires to address this, but in general, yes, expect slightly faster tire wear with an EV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Good work copying the answer from ChatGPT in there, must have been a big effort

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,888 ✭✭✭User1998


    We are talking SUV’s here. I don’t think any diesel SUV can achieve 5L/100km. More like 7L/100km



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Thanks… tyres on EV's wear quicker than tyres on ICE cars. that's just a fact. Why are you objecting to me giving the OP some advise?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Because it's not "just a fact". Lots of people reporting very economical wear on tyres on here. Even your ChatGPT smorgasbord used the word "tend", which isn't a word normally associated with facts. And it then rounded off with a whole bunch of exceptions and hedging.

    A lot of this tyre "wear" is due to many tyres recommended for EVs having lower than normal tread depth to reduce noise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,888 ✭✭✭User1998


    It really depends on the type of car and your driving style. Typically EV’s are heavier and more powerful so naturally wear tyres quicker. But an E Tron isn’t going to wear out its tyres any quicker than a Q7 TDI for example



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Its a FACT. the fact you disagreed doesn't change that FACT.

    @mick4_2000 … given that your moving from a company car to a car where you will be liable for maintenance costs.. i thought i would simply give you some information to help you make your decision.. take it not, thats up to you. Best of luck and enjoy your new car.

    As for you @CMOTDibbler. Have good evening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Throw your toys out of your pram all you like, screaming IT'S A FACT!! does not make it so. And you've signally failed to prove your "fact".

    But kudos for the flounce. Well done, haven't seen one of those around here for a loooong time.



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