Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Awful

Another example of a sick and depraved society yet their actions are welcomed by many in the so called developed world.

Even Israelis on social media are flummoxed by the fact that the terrorist entity known as the IDF has been caught out blatantly lying about the murder of the 15 paramedics - a clear example of war crimes and grotesque cover up by the regime. A lot of discomfort from them around this.

Very well, Jordan too. Although theyre not direct neighbors, so some mitigation. Lebanon is overburdened from what I can tell, so cant blame them much. Maybe the Saudis too have reason to be ashamed, I havent checked in their case but knowing their ways its pretty safe to assume.

I would have Egypt open the border to Palestinians, so that they could flee and seek refuge.

As for Israel, I dont get into Palestine Vs Israel as to take either side is useless. I have thoughts on both sides, and in both cases they would be deemed politically unacceptable and support for the other side. Israel taking in refugees who they've previously bombed doesnt make much sense. Contextualy different.

Egypt is building a vanity project while direct neighboring civilians fleeing a death machine are kept out by border fortifications. I imagine Egyptian border guards must hear the desperate cries below their towers. Thats some shameful sht.

Why exactly should the Palestinians leave their homes and their land?

If you think that's ok then maybe the Israelis should leave their land and homes?

Seems to me your "side" is very clear.

The last words of the lad who took the video -

“Forgive me, mother. This is the path I chose – to help people,” he says. “Allahu akbar,” God is great, he says."

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2025/04/05/video-emerges-of-aid-workers-killed-in-gaza-under-gunfire-barrage-with-ambulance-lights-on/

I came to express frustration with Egypt, nothing else. Theres always one like you however, too obsessed too closed minded, so that you must attribute any related opinion to a side.

Neither side particularly appeals to me. Do you need that written any clearer.

Egypts lack of enthusiasm however frustrates me, when I see them right there with their door mostly closed. Building a vanity project. How it doesnt frustrate you equally I can only put down to some form of tribalistic derangement.

During the Israel-Hamas war,it is estimated by the Palestinian Authority that at least 115,000 Palestinians from Gaza crossed into Egypt.

How many would you have them take?

oh ok, then dont let those injured and bomb dust covered kids in.

Not frame them as the bad guy. But shame them for their lack of fcks given.

Again, I dont have a side.

I can open three tabs, one with bombings of gazans, one with egypts border fortification keeping their bloodied neighbors out, and one with egypt building ego-driven mega projects.

How can any other conclusion be reached other than that is some shameful sht.

Try to see the wood for the trees here people.

Try to understand the point being made to you.

If Egypt open their doors and take in the Palestinians, Israel will just come up with some bogus excuse to use that as a reason to occupy yet more Palestinian territory and then in a future scenario refuse the right of return.

Both them and the US have already been explicit in what they have in mind for the area.

You're dealing with a regime who's head is cozying up to the worst that humanity has to offer and aligning themselves with the likes of Trump and Putin, and is currently in Hungary mixing with Orban and congratulating him on exiting the ICC.

I wouldn't put anything past these bastards.

Israel is supposed to opposing hamas not the Palestinians. They could have given them safe passage to the West Bank if they cared about civilian death. Israel would like nothing more to expel the 2 million Gazans. Permanently.

But not refuge in Israel. How convenient.

id like to express opinions on israel and palestine, but its useless. tell me it doesnt end in 'what about'.

its a problem without a solution, many have tried, for quite some time. if you have the answer id love to hear it.

if i do condemn israel for not taking refugees (a strange proposal given theyd be taking in their enemies) then due to obsessives like yourself im on a team id just get a pro-israeli saying 'what about'.

if i dont condemn them, i get you.

You, and your ilk will forever be in a circular argument with pro-israelis. This side did that, yeah but what about when they did that. It ends nowhere. Watch for a year and tell me that it actually goes somewhere.

All that happens is your brain gets cooked, so that when someone says anything Mid-east adjacent they must belong to the other team.

Egypt is sat upon a pile of wealth looking on as the bloodied and crippled children and elderly stagger around outside their border. But im informed that such a sight is not actually shameful you see, because of wider strategic concerns. So I stand corrected. My eyes must have deceived me. The sight of broken civilians set against the background of the glimmering skyline of the new capital city isnt actually shameful. In fact its actually a good thing.

Would that be a bit like the US vanity project to build the Riviera of the Med?

I do find it odd that whilst you find neither "side" appealing, you're certainly pretty annoyed at the Egyptians not allowing the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

And no, I'm not deranged, obsessed or have a closed mind, thanks.