Hamas strike on Israel

The hypocrisy - Israel and its supporters gnashing teeth about the hostages in Gaza whilst detainees in Israeli prisons, including children, charged with nothing, are brutalised.

As per Haaretz yesterday, when this is over, Israelis will look in the mirror and wonder how on earth their State could carry out these atrocities. Much like the German public after WWII when the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed in full.

I'm guessing that there is just a normal cross-section of views and opinions. Certainly, there are very few references given that justify anything done to the Palestinians over the decades. So those supporting Israel simply have no corroborated evidence to support their stance other than two verifiable facts:

1. Hamas murdered over 1000 Israelis on 7th October
2. Hamas is keeping hostages in Gaza

These are the only two facts that are trotted out ad infinitum in support of what must be the most abhorrent and depraved campaign in my memory. Its just incredible that some continuously defend it even in the face of fully corroborate evidence showing clear War Crimes have been committed yet again.

Perhaps the views and opinions are just a lot more polarised than in other discussions of more mundane subjects.

More on the killing of those aid workers -

"I'm the only survivor who saw what happened to my colleagues," Munther Abed says, scrolling through pictures of his fellow paramedics on his phone.

He survived the Israeli attack that killed 15 emergency workers in Gaza by diving to the floor in the back of his ambulance, as his two colleagues in the front were shot in the early hours of 23 March."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgere1y740o

Except for the FACT that innocents are being deliberately targeted with tank shells and snipers unlike other conflicts. More children murdered in this war in 15 months than in all other wars worldwide in the last four years.

Yes that does seem to be the pattern. That 'style' just wouldn't be possible for me so I struggle to understand it.

Actually your post reminded me of this point made by Ivan Yates recently. Have a listen to this from 23:38 to 25:54

He was well briefed on the reasons for the resumption of hostilities in Gaza - pure politics. All those Palestinians murdered for politics and egos - depravity at its worst.

Since day one, the two retorts to any critisism of Israel is "but Hamas" and "but the hostages". These are the only two justifications ever given.

As we know, the Israeli Govt. abandoned the hostages last year at least, possibly earlier. They have razed Gaza and yet 24 living hostages remain.

The second excuse is "but Hamas". Hamas murdered over 1000 Israelis. Israel has killed 50,000 Palestinian women and children. Note - about 20,000 men have been killed but the retort for that is "they were Hamas combatants". So let's put those to one side.

Israel has murdered 90 woman and children in Gaza every single day since Oct 7th. Excluding men killed in Gaza - so for just the Palestinian women and children, the Israel v Hamas kill ratio is 98%.

The two remaining excuses used are no longer credible in terms of justifying wanton murder and destruction.

Justice must be served on this responsible for these heinous crimes.

Certainly, for the rest of my life anyhow, Israel will always be associated with and responsible for the Gaza Genocide.

Israelis will look into that mirror and be horrified.

Not a dig at a good post but I have to point out that the principle of civilians "bearing the brunt" of conflict, whilst generally true, is nowhere near the mark in the Gaza conflict.

In the case of Gaza, women and children are 70% of the total number killed. That's 50,000 dead.

But much more telling, in Gaza, the Palestinians are suffering 98% of the atrocities. There are not, by a country mile, an equivalent number of Israeli civilians "bearing the brunt".

So let's rewrite the generalisation (which I agree with) to be specific (and accurate) for this conflict:

"Palestinian civilians are bearing the brunt of Israeli savagery"

I'd imagine that within 6 months Hamas were a busted flush in terms of any credible threat to Israel - possibly earlier. And even then, that threat was minimal compared to an army, navy and air force that had full supremacy of the war zone.

What Hamas did to Israeli civilians and soldiers was abhorrent. Keeping the hostages is abhorrent.

The retribution Israel has launched against Gaza is beyond the pale and I agree with you, wanton slaughter and not deserving of the title "war".

But let's not forget the huge increase in the destruction and killing in the West Bank. Don't forget what Israel is doing in Lebanon and Syria (Golan) - breaching agreed ceasefires and illegally occupying territory.

Israel is going all in in all directions - venting its spleen on its neighbours. And that can only lead to misery in the region for decades to come - and I believe Israel will suffer the most in the world stage. They are being and will be shunned - a Parish for a long time.

And to be absolutely clear, there is no hint of joy or "see, I told you so" against Israeli civilians. They'll pay a heavy price for the actions of a few bad people in power. Tgat is unforgivable.

Equally, it's the same for the Palestinians paying the price for Hamas. Arguably in a more deadly life limiting manner but paying the price nonetheless.

Oooh - conspiracy theories. Seems the leader of that Institute has had "difficulties" in the past.

South Africa took their case to the ICJ because they have a legal duty to do so. They have been enjoined by other signatory states.

Now, what's your analysis of the medics buried in a shallow grave by the IDF, hands and legs tied?

Also corroborated by the sole survivor of the massacre. The IDF and Israel are skilled liars.

I can guarantee that when the full truth comes out about what they have done in Gaza, the world will be horrified.

This single case is the tip of the iceberg.

Cue the outrage from Israel and its supporters (crickets).