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Car and customs

  • 22-03-2025 12:16PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭


    Your car breaks down and take a week to get it fixed, you get lend of English reg car for that term from friend, how does this go if stopped by customs officals



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Not well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭kincaid


    Can you explain ...... so if car was in for repair in northern Ireland garage and you got courtesy car then is that the same, its only for week or two



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭cml387


    It doesn't matter. You are not allowed to drive a foreign registered car on an Irish licence. It's up to you whether you want to take the chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭CrazyEric


    Is that definite?? Before Brexit I lived and worked in the UK for a while, as it was a short term thing <1 year I didn't change my licence and was told I had 11 months grace to exchange. I was stopped a few times both here and there and never a problem in an English vehicle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,154 ✭✭✭User1998


    This is untrue. You have 30 days to register a foreign vehicle, it can be driven here for the 30 days, and you can even get your own Irish insurance.

    To the OP, Garda have no real interest in UK registered cars. I’ve been waved through many checkpoints etc. I have never seen a customs checkpoint but it’s likely they might have a different view on it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    As stated, the Gardai are not bothered in general, unless you had some other offence. The Customs could have seized your car.

    You have some grace to register a car, but that would imply that you had bought it and were going to register it. Using someone else's car would not fall under that condition. I think cross-border journeys might be in a different category, so a loaner car from a NI garage might escape if you just drove home and drove back. Unlikely they would give you a car though and risk it being seized.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    No, but this most certainly is untrue and would compound the original offence by adding fraud to the mix!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,154 ✭✭✭User1998


    Well yeah, its not exactly ‘grace’. Its covered in the legislation. The poster I responded to posted a blanket statement that you can’t drive a UK registered car on an Irish license which is completely false. But I agree that using someone else’s car that won’t be registered here is definitely a grey area.

    Idiot. What I said is 100% true. When did I suggest that OP should commit fraud?🤣

    I was responding to a blanket statement that its illegal to drive a UK registered car on an Irish license.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Sid 1984


    The issue is nothing to do with what licence you have.

    Section 139 (3) of the Finance Act 1992 makes it an offence to be in possession, by a resident, of a vehicle not registered in the State


    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/act/9/section/139/enacted/en/html#sec139

    So if you were unfortunate enough to meet into Customs or Garda in a pissy mood they are entitled to detain the car.

    With regards to VRT; you must make an appointment within 7 days of bringing the car into the State & it must be registered within 30 days.


    https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/vehicle-registration-tax/vrt-and-registration.aspx



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭kincaid


    Im talking here about maybe getting a lend of a car from the garage until ours is fixed, it's only for a week, we be leaving it back when ours is fixed



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,834 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    A foreign-registered car which enters the State on a temporary exemption from registration (including VRT, obviously) may not be hired or lent to an Irish resident. A car which is acquired abroad by an Irish resident and brought here to be registered benefits from a 30 day grace period.

    Two completely different things, if the former is detected and enforced, the car is seized in theory pending release and deportation by a non-resident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭kincaid


    Well you have 7 days grace here It seems so if stopped all should be ok, they cant impound the car If you say you just bought it and they then give you 7 days to get that appointment and then just return it

    IIt's not just the impound but isnt there a fine too?

    How can they prove how you had the car anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,154 ✭✭✭User1998


    Seems you’ve made up your mind already. I’ve owned and driven UK cars for months on end here. I’m sure you’ll be fine for a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭kincaid


    I have not really and just putting it out there for others here that know alot than me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭JVince


    Is this a new rule? Or something you have made up?

    There is no issue driving a UK car with an Irish license. If you are driving it in Ireland, you need to be ordinarily resident in the UK and driving it here for a max of 12 months unless studying in an Irish university.

    In addition, gardai have zero interest once you are insured.

    As you are not a UK resident, customs could stop you and ask for details. They tend to be reasonable people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I work with someone who lives locally and has been driving a UK reg for as many years as I've been working with them.

    They don't seem willing or able to rereg.

    Obviously not legal or even moral but they don't seem concerned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    A large number of ROI residents in border counties are driving round in NI/UK regs for years, and don't seem to have been caught.

    You'll be grand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭kincaid


    Thing is customs everywhere now in our area



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,154 ✭✭✭User1998


    Does it really matter if they catch you? Surely its the garage owners problem not yours

    Edit: First you mention a friend, then a garage. Which one is it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Which is why they probably won't lend a car. But if they do lend a car you are supposed to bring it back, otherwise they can keep your car.

    However, it would be an especially officious customs person that would seize a car from someone who owned a compliant car that was in the garage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭kincaid


    Well it does if the car is lifted or I'm fined



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭galvo_clare


    That’s certainly untrue. I broke down in Belfast and hired a car there. Brought it back South for a week before returning it. I didn’t have any problems nor did I expect any.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭mankteln


    Aye I've had a loan of my dad's northern reg car and driven it for a week or so down here before when I've been stuck. Went through Garda checkpoint in it too and they had no issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Guards don't care, sure they see Northern regs all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,154 ✭✭✭User1998


    They genuinely can’t be bothered with UK reg cars. Theres no real checks they can even do on them. And VRT isn’t a a Garda issue its a Revenue issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Raichų


    well, there’s a Peugeot SUV type car in my estate at least 6 months now on UK plates and it’s caused the owner little issue it appears.

    I just don’t see anyone giving you an ounce of trouble over this OP while I suppose you could run into a customs checkpoint I mean when’s the last time you did and how like are you to in a week driving it- and even if you DO I don’t really imagine they’ll care a whole lot.

    I personally have never driven through a customs checkpoint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Whocare


    customs are very active all over Ireland at minute last week and again today (member of truckers whatapp group about check points ect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Unless you piss them off

    https://x.com/GardaTraffic/status/1903440998643950032



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,797 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Yes, it's 100% correct. An Irish resident cannot drive a foreign registered vehicle here. Car could be seized from you at the side of the road.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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