Come back Garron Noone! **Mod Warning in Post #654**

Unfortunately we now live in a world where it's totally black or white. There is no nuance any more.

Say that dropping bombs on women and kids in Gaza is terrible, or stopping food getting to them is wrong, then you're antisemitic.

Say that it's mostly Muslims who are driving cars into people and you're islamaphobic.

Say that Ireland is taking in too many immigrants for what we are able to accommodate, and you're a racist or a right wing nut.

I liked his videos, found the chocolate reviews etc v good for a while, but got tired of it eventually and stopped following him.

I thought he came across really well on LLS and his Christmas message though.

Seems like a nice guy, and has had struggles dealing with people in the past, so I'm sure this negative attention is taking a toll on him - probably a good idea for his own sake to take a break from social media.

I think he made a bad choice in commenting on this topic at all though. He was going to piss off one cohort or the other no matter what he said.

So either he should have been willing to stay the course and back up what he said, or else he shouldn't have said it at all.

Never heard of him

Unfortunate.

Simple and straightforward question, would you agree that calling someone a racist for questioning the immigration policy of a government restricts that persons ability to speak freely?

Exactly, it's the extremes of both sides (right and left) that make political conversation almost impossible.

I'm very much a left leaning person and I am massively concerned by the uptick in fascist style leadership especially across the pond. But I think it's fairly uncontroversial that we have an issue with immigration. I agree that it's great that people are coming here, it's just that we aren't suitably prepared for the expansion that is occurring.

What I fear is that people who have this opinion will back absolute sc*mbags like a McGregor and we end up with a divided country. I think it's very very weird Elon musk tweets about us and as a nation we should resist anything to do with that lunatic. We don't need him or any of his ilk here to destroy a decent society that we take for granted currently.

In short it's okay to say we have issues with immigration. It's not okay to sing praises of rascists like Musk or trump or even McGregor

”He shouldn’t have said anything”

This statement is thrown around like confetti, but do people actually comprehend what this statement means?

I’m seeing this attitude more and more normalized the last few years and am genuinely interested where it stems from, is it just a boards perspective given that it is a moderated forum, is it an Irish thing given that we have predominantly leftist government and media, is it a covid thing where questioning policies was highly criticised, would be interested to hear if it’s just me noticing this or if there has been a general acceptance of late that people should not share their opinions, ironically enough whilst being on a public discussion forum sharing their opinions!!

People aren't allowed to have opinions any more.

In Relation to Garron Noone, he has amassed a massive following due to his comedy videos, and his singing talents. As far as I am aware he has not gained followers because of his social commentary or views on society or politics.

I don't think anyone is saying he is not entitled to his opinions, but that is not what people follow him for, it's completely the opposite of his usual content.

Now, that's grand, but he should be able to take whatever opinions others have, if he chooses to make a serious video.

It was a mistake, as I'm sure he has realised. He has no control over who uses his videos for their own agendas.

This essentially seems to be a battle between far left and far right 'keyboard warriors' (i.e. cranks) trading insults on social media. I would suggest that 90%+ of the population have never even heard of Garron Noone and are probably completely unaware of the online slugfest.

Garron hit the nail bang on the head as did the rapist in the white house. Ireland is now destroyed. Especially working class areas where we are the minority. Any attempt, even on boards.ie, to raise legitimate concerns about the issue is shutdown and you are a racist.

Garron is an average Irish lad with the same concerns. I'd absolutely love someone with these concerns to start a political party.

Now i think Garron has pulled a stunt and will be back and increase his following thus increasing his income from these platforms. Fair play. Thats the way it works.

i for one am proud my taxes go towards helping ukrainian refugees. i know, awful isn't it.

If someone completely inoffensive like Garron Noone feels unable to speak up for fear of being labeled a racist, a rapist supporter, or a fascist—when nothing he said suggests he is any of those things—then fewer people will dare to speak out in the future.

This creates a vacuum where only figures like Conor McGregor or Elon Musk, who don’t care about public perception, will voice (some) of the opinions people agree with. Because they’re largely indifferent to criticism, it doesn’t affect them—but they end up being the only ones left, drawing people toward them by default.

Has it gotten better in the last 5 to 7 years? Has it stayed the same or is it worse...genuine question? @suvigirl