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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky.

    I confess, the water bit is a lie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Craig_David


    Yeah that's kind of what I had in mind unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Craig_David


    weird response. Its a discussion board.. People ask questions ….?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    absolutely stupid to buy anything from US especially while Trump is threatening European countries, our allies and is carrying out a trade war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    An Amazon and an X / Tesla free life is pretty easy IMO. Getting rid of some others like Meta (Whatsapp), Google, MS, Netflix is harder IMO.

    Moving beyond what can be affected by consumer choice (and I will be making that choice, as much as I can anyway)….there's the American cloud services, AWS, Azure, GCP.

    Every country in Europe (and the EU, though its policies are driven by the member states mostly) dozed off and let these 3 US companies (Amazon, MS, Google) develop monopoly power over a critical service.

    It was path of least resistance to just let them gobble up everything I suppose, not anger the US govt. (and possibly local businesses too) by pushing back, restricting them and making sure there would be European competition, protected from the US giants by market barriers.

    The dominance these companies have in Europe was just a bit uncomfortable and chafing before, with the US turning unfriendly it's a knife pressed on your jugular.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    In the UK Liz Truss was blaming the deep state for her incompetence and in America we have a Russian stooge.

    So we get not one but two Harry Perkins. The mind blowing part is they were both from right wing parties. Republicans being soft on Russia and being isolationist I could never have called.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Ukraine continues to work against putin's terrorists in ways they might not have been expecting:

    https://mil.in.ua/en/news/zelenskyy-confirms-operation-in-belgorod-region/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I’m pretty sure Ukraine aren’t falling for any of this ceasefire talk.


    And most of the world for that matter, yet everyone has to be seen to play along with it so they don’t upset Trump while Putin plays him like a fiddle.


    How did we get here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,651 ✭✭✭Infini


    That dude died during the attempt. Might be mixing him up with Luigi who shot the CEO of a parasitical health insurer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    There was kinda a 2nd attempt. Some guy was arrested outside the golf course caring a gun. Op is talking about the 2nd guy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    If "how did we get here" is a serious question, then the answer is the huge income inequality in the USA, which radicalises people there. Neither the Democrats or the Republicans have the political will to solve the problem. Democrats try to smooth things a bit by introducing some social programs. Trump, as a populist leader, talks about getting jobs back into the the USA and making America Great Again (some can say that the USA were great in 1950s when the taxes were up to 93% for top earners), while slashing social programs and giving tax breaks for the ultra rich. Trump works for his oligarch buddies. They want to squeeze every last cent out of the USA before moving on to greener pastures, and there is nobody better than Trump to bankrupt a company while enriching himself in the process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,803 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    "How did we get here"

    Step one: convince people that they are being lied to and only you have the truthful information.

    There are other steps but its too depressing, why can't that orange cnut have a heart attack? Is that too much to.ask



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


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    https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3lkral4rd322x

    Kropyvnytskyi, over 30 explosions

    Ukraine taking a battering tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭SoapMcTavish


    Yup - this needs to stop. Ukraine need to build nukes asap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,653 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I doubt the SecDefs sobriety. Plenty of prior history there. So far he's just been a water carrier for the crazy POTUS who is far from sober, though not intoxicated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭riddles


    A quick refresh on Ukraines situation - it's ironic almost 30 years since the Orange revolution we now have an Orange faced man promoting and supporting all the Russian demands to end the current phase in the conflict. Is Trump the second coming of Yanukovych in the guise of the US president?

    Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in 1994 under the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances.

    The Orange Revolution in Ukraine took place in 2004 and was a series of protests and political events sparked by widespread allegations of electoral fraud during the presidential election. The revolution was primarily a response to the contested election results and the belief that the process had been rigged in favor of Viktor Yanukovych, who was supported by pro-Russian factions

    Outcomes and Legacy:

    • Yushchenko's Presidency: The Orange Revolution led to the rise of Viktor Yushchenko as president, and the election was seen as a significant step toward democratic reforms in Ukraine. However, his presidency was marked by political instability and economic challenges.
    • Strained Relations with Russia: The revolution and Yushchenko's pro-Western stance led to a cooling of relations with Russia, which had supported Yanukovych. The Orange Revolution signaled Ukraine's desire to move closer to Europe and away from Russian influence.
    • Political Polarization: The revolution deepened political divisions in Ukraine. While the west and center of the country leaned toward pro-Western policies, the eastern part of Ukraine (Yanukovych's stronghold) was more aligned with Russia, which contributed to political tensions in subsequent years.

    The Euromaidan Revolution (also known as the Maidan Revolution or the Revolution of Dignity) took place in 2013-2014 and was another pivotal moment in Ukraine's history, building on themes from the Orange Revolution. This revolution was sparked by a decision by Ukraine’s then-president, Viktor Yanukovych, to reject an association agreement with the European Union (EU) in favor of closer ties with Russia.

    • Removal of Yanukovych and his pro-Russian government.

    • Pro-European policies were solidified by the new government.

    • Closer ties with the EU and NATO, though this came at the cost of heightened tensions with Russia.

    • It also set the stage for ongoing conflict, as Russia’s military intervention in Crimea and support for separatist groups in eastern Ukraine led to the ongoing war.
    • The winter Olympics in Sochi Russia end on the 23rd of February - Russia invaded Crimea on the 27th of Feb, its an insight I guess how naive at that time the West was and still trying to sanitise relations with Russia.

    What could the west have done differently post the Euromaidan revolution?

    • Stronger Military Support for Ukraine
      Western countries should have provided Ukraine with more substantial military aid, including defensive weapons and training, to help deter Russian aggression and protect Ukrainian sovereignty.

    • Immediate and Aggressive Sanctions on Russia
      The West could have implemented stronger, more immediate sanctions on Russia’s economy and military sectors, targeting key oligarchs and institutions to pressure Russia into de-escalating.

    • Enhanced Diplomatic Engagement
      More robust and continuous diplomatic support for Ukraine’s new government could have helped stabilize the situation, ensuring stronger international recognition and legitimacy.

    • Clearer Path to NATO Membership
      Offering Ukraine a clearer path to NATO membership or a stronger NATO partnership would have served as a deterrent against Russian expansionism and provided Ukraine with more security guarantees.

    • Expanded Economic Assistance and Reform Support
      Greater financial support for Ukraine’s economic stabilization and comprehensive reforms could have helped prevent economic collapse, ensuring long-term democratic stability.

    • Countering Russian Disinformation
      The West should have done more to combat Russia’s disinformation campaigns by supporting Ukrainian media, counter-propaganda efforts, and providing resources to ensure accurate narratives reached the public.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Thankfully they managed to hit an Ammo depot at the Engel's air base. These strikes inevitable reduce Russia's strike capability short term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Canadians are furious at the Americans

    They now want stronger economic and military ties with Europe

    which is great for long term as they have plenty of natural resources to replace Russian crap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,646 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Canada over time has managed to lean more towards systems and standards more akin to Western European / EU standards than that of their neigbour to the South. Not to mention that the operation of the Canadian state has a lot more in common with Europe in relation to things like Healthcare. Their treatment of language makes the country officially dual-lingual, matching the likes of Ireland and other European states when it comes to that.

    All of that is however somewhat surprising given the stark contrast we see in the States, and that's even before Donnie's extra concentrated brand of stupid returned. What this means is that Canadians can see and understand the plain bloody obvious; that the Russians are the agressor in this war and that they must be defeated. Compare this to the culture-war nonsense south of the border where pro-Ukraine sentiment potentially goes way of "DEI" or haranging an exhasted Zelenski about not saying "Thank you" enough.

    It makes perfect sense for the Canadians to look East and to tie their security to the larger European sphere of geo-politics. Until (or if) the US regain their collective heads and firmly reattach them, they must be discounted as a helpful element. The rest of us must instead carry on and protect the free world from those who would rather end it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Interesting read this. Have any of you heard of Vladislav Sourkov, the wizard of the Kremlin???

    "Interview. The inventor of Putinism had not spoken since the start of the war in Ukraine. L'Express spoke to him."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Ukrainians get out of dodge by Sept 10 2025 OR legalise their status. Other rules also will apply to

    "the territories of the so-called "Donetsk/Luhansk People's Republics" terrorist organisations, as well as the parts of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson oblasts temporarily occupied by Russia, before the decree's enactment"

     



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭riddles


    yes - was looking for a refresh from the top, I asked it different questions. I should have added that as a disclaimer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    So is it inevitable that Zelenskyy will be in for another public uncompromising dressing down in the oval office?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    I don't think so! It's just another of crazy Trump's daily ramblings.. next he will want to turn Odessa into a Trump/Musk branded luxury Yacht port..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    So furious that they are partnering with Australia on building a $6.5 billion over the horizon radar, an area in which Australia has some considerable expertise, with it's Jindalee OTH radar which can detect small boats several thousand km away in Australia's northern waters and well into Indonesia.

    What a sweet deal - Canada benefits, the US misses out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,841 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Why has Zaporizhzhia NPP become the big talking point all of a suddden? If it's under Russian control it's surely very likely to be staying there unless they want it off their hands…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Mod Edit: Warned for breach of forum charter

    Post edited by Necro on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Americans become owners

    Russians bomb it causing a disaster

    Both blame Ukrainians

    … very predictable



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