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What whisk(e)y are we drinking? (Part 2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,769 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Lovely. I've always some dehydrated fruit at hand so can pop a bit of orange into the mix that way.

    Or Michters Rye which has orange notes to it



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Irish whisky numbers have always made me scratch my head a bit. You wonder if it's a bit like Chinese economic data, where official Ireland colludes the spirits sector to make sure things present well… I take what I read with a pinch of salt.

    You regularly read that there's been historic year-on-year growth in Irish whisky, and yet on the other hand as recently as 2024 IBEC were reporting two consecutive years of decline of the export value of the sector. Irish whisky has been going well in investment terms, but all can't possibly be too rosy in the garden when operating costs are high, there's stiff international competition and you've got the prospect of a US/EU trade war.

    You'll hear people say things like the "long-term horizon is still growth-orientated" but … can't help but feel that's a lot of crystal ball, crossed fingers and trying to spook the investors too much. Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't, but it does seem like the particular problem with whisky as a business is that you can't adapt to changing markets quickly… It makes turning oil tankers look straightforward, when your stock takes years to mature.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,183 ✭✭✭furiousox


    The Aldi Ardfallen 10yr old is available again instore from 13/3.

    I've seen it mentioned here.

    What's it like, worth picking up?

    https://groceries.aldi.ie/en-GB/ALDIIE/p-irish-whiskey-10-year-old-700ml-ardfallen/4061459849844

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,344 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I'm terrible at tasting notes, my main feedback is that I liked it enough to buy a second bottle :)

    Have you tasted anything else finished in Moscatel cask eg Dingle Samhain?

    It's an easy sipper, slight tang \ fruitiness from the sweet dessert wine cask.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,708 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Will try it out but suspect that'll be way too sweet for me.

    Makers Mark if I'm feeling generous, otherwise Four Roses.

    Brown sugar cube muddled with bitters and water. Large ice cube and the whiskey. Orange twist and a maraschino cherry.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,583 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    ^ Brown Sugar Syrup is a game changer.

    Great for Old Fashioned or Iced Coffees.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    For me, I get the orange hit in an Old Fashioned via two steps-

    1. Orange bitters
    2. An orange rind, and I bend the rind to crack the skin, ejecting some oil onto a lighter flame, over the drink.. Kind of 'pops' when it hits the flame. Not sure of the science on this but it releases an orange aroma, if nothing else, which might account for a good chunk of the orange taste you then get.

    Years ago I tried all the high street bourbons and although Buffalo Trace is my preference for a high street sipping bourbon, I found that Makers Mark was the one I found most moreish in an Old Fashioned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,769 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Twist of salt on top of the ice in an Old Fashioned adds a bit of zing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭dinorebel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,769 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,278 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Recommendations for bourbon lads readily available here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,344 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If there is an OBriens near you see if they have any Eagle Rare 10 still in stock. Sold out online as on offer at €42.

    https://www.obrienswine.ie/products/eagle-rare-10yo-bourbon-70cl

    Bulleit, Makers Mark, Buffalo Trace have their fans also.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Hard to look past Buffalo Trace for me a decent budget option if you can find it is Four Roses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭mikewest


    Tesco up north £19.50/70cl if you have a Tesco UK clubcard. One of their better regular offers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 Barbie2k23


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    got given 2 bottles of this at Xmas would it be worth money in a few years time



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,247 ✭✭✭SteM


    In Silo, bourbon from the 'before times' is very valuable so you might get lucky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Appletart Upsetter


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    Anyone given this a go? I'll have to wait till lents finished to give it a swirl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Don’t you know everyone ( Irish ?!) gets a special pass on Paddy’s Day to break their Lenten ‘pledge’ ?!:-) Anyway I’ve left it a bit late to pick up a new bottle namely this :


    https://westmeathwhiskeyworld.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/great-oaks-irish-whiskey-blend-46/


    Dunnes Stores ‘exclusive’ Great Oaks 46%


    A bit of a mystery I had high hopes this was Tesco Finest Irish Single Malt under another label but it ain’t .I was slightly concerned it would be pants but it’s not .The West Cork ID in microscopic print was concerning but it’s solid stuff .Definitely the best they’ve done in recent years .The linked review covers it mostly .Funny he describes Ireland being ‘in a state of lockdown’ due to Storm Emma /The Beast from the East in 2018…little did we know what was to follow :-(

    ALDI Maynooth has Ardfallen10 that delicious sweet dessert wine finished €30 drop ( also West Cork sourced ….but is it their latest distillate since they went fully ‘in house ‘.

    Anyway I would prefer the Ardfallen 10 to this Great Oaks stuff but I’m happy enough to have picked it up for €28 exploiting a family members sinful 20% off everything staff discount .I don’t know if I’d go to €35 though , nearly sure I wouldn’t .A BlackBush is about as pleasant although this stuff does as the reviewer says have a lovely bit of 46% heat .

    Its a bit ‘tricky’ the way they describe it as ‘single cask’ even though its a blend of grain and malt .I assumed it was a single malt ….


    Id rank this stuff on a par with Bush 10 so its by no means ‘disappointing’ but its a competitive market


    West Cork could be doing some cracking stuff in a few years ( yes , I’m changing my whining tune about them !)

    Slainte !

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 Barbie2k23


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    wonder would this be worth much



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,048 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    not yet - i'm waiting for the staff at my local SV to tire of seeing a solitary bottle on the shelf and put it on sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Well I wish I'd have thought of that instead of giving my local Centra 90 of my hard earned Euros.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    90 euro!

    Well, I hope it doesn't disappoint. Certainly an unusual finish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭FlicFlak


    90 isnt bad, i got it when it first came out as travel retail exclusive in the airport and paid 99! And that was still only the 700ml! They never did a 1L release!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,048 ✭✭✭ablelocks




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I heard they are talks of up to 100 redundancies in Midleton. A lot of older staff will happily take the payout but the hits might keep on coming in the Irish Whiskey market over the next few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,746 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'm not sorry I didn't get anywhere in landing a job there over the last couple of years. It will be last in, first out, no doubt!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    The opposite would probably be better from management's POV alright. The senior lads will be the ones costing the most money. If this is about cost saving they could be the ones they're hoping to show the door to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    There used to be a strong union there back along, not sure if there still is but unions would insist on seniority getting preference.



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