Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

Flogas seem to be shooting themselves in the foot with their lack of attention to customers rolling off the BWG plan, and fail to realise that simply herding them onto standards rates ain't going to keep anyone. Anyone that's read the letters at least.

Very surprised they haven't come up with an off-ramp offer to keep this cohort, many with EVs.

Sort of 1970s thinking.

I doubt they want rid of the customers. Definitely rid of the plan, but they could come up with a plan that allows them to keep the customers and make some money.

Got an email from Flogas yesterday which got sent off the the ads folder. Basically they're offering a renewal at the same rates as the BWG offer

Got a follow up email today saying the rates were accidentally rounded but were still the same as before

They're also chucking in 2 Emerald park tickets

Still looks like Energia are cheapest for me however but around €200

interesting. I didn’t get one yet. When does your contract expire? (Mine expires 31st March)

how is it cheaper, is it the standing charge?

Super interesting - thanks for sharing. I've just gotten a smart meter but still in the 30 day activation period before I can select a smart plan.

Your exercise, although with many different variables to my own household (no solar or batteries) sort of confirms what I've suspected that EV plans have too shorter window during the cheapest period to be effective enough to offset the expensive ones.

how does it work out 200 euro cheaper, is it the standing charge? (I think the day and night rates are essentially the same)

The volatility in the market is more or less subsided now, so fixed rates less of a premium then they used to be.

Don't forget, obviously fixed rates won't move if unit rates get cheaper.

Yeah I got that letter about a month ago I think, it mentioned the standard rates and made no mention of continuing the offer

I only know about this email because of the follow up email saying there was a mistake in the original

I think in my case it would work with 20-30kWh or more of battery storage and certainly the guys with big batteries are making money off those plans

If I could try it for a year I'd go for it but the fact that I can't go back to a D/N rate is what's putting me off for now. It isn't worth losing the flexibility of the longer night rate

I'd definitely recommend others to try out the same exercise, the worst you lose is some time where you could potentially be on a cheaper rate but it's worthwhile making an informed decision

Like many of you I'm also on the Flowgas BWG offer due to expire on March 31.

The Energia Day/Night offer is the best for changing for me.

Are they still charging increased unit rates for excess over 3,000 kWh day and 2,000 kWh night in each two monthly billing period? It applied to me when I was with them previously but can't find any reference to it on their website now.

It depends on mileage and home setup, but we are managing 3 EV’s also, all on the 4 hour Energia window, Just needs aome habit changes really.

One EV gets charged 2 to 3 times per week, and the other two EV’s 1 or two times per week, we managed it fine over last 3 months. 15kw Battery is charged every night to full, starting at minimum 10% and is at 100% just before 5am, so we time appliances from 5 am. We also have water heating timed every night at 5am.

We have been exceeding the Energia 1000 units per bi monthly threshold, by around 600 units, but the blended average rate is still quite low at 7.97 inc vat. The Energia day/night - night rate is 13.49 inc vat for up to 2000 units per bi monthly billling cycle,it does add a lot more flexibility, 9 hours versus 4, but it comes at a significant extra cost, thats a difference of €88 every two months (1600 x unit rate difference of 5.52inc vat)or an extra cost of €530 annually.

The 4 hour Energia window is manageable, but for us at least the 3 hour one is a non starter, and EI’s 2 hour window is a joke.

My current rates with BWG are this, all with VAT included. Day/night meter Urban

Day 25.48
Night 12.35
standing charge = 331 Euro

According to above, I think its

Day 29.69
Night 14.39
Standing charge = 331 Euro

again all including VAT, so a nice increase over a years usage