Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

That’s correct. Right now, he isn’t at that level. 🤷

Excellent post. The "weak Mentality" is also prevalent in all Irish team sport's. The likes of POM & C Healy etc are never going to take a team over the line in crucial games. Yesterday's tonking by France exposed all the cracks in our squad and we looked like a team from the 1990's. JGP was interviewed after the match yesterday and you could see how much he hates losing, he could barely get word's out of his much he had that much anger. Our players are "AAH Shure" we did our best etc. The simple cruel fact is we are an ordinary rugby nation without the foreign coaches & player's!!

I see we're all back to it being Sam Prendergast's fault.

Meanwhile, our two centres still get away with turning in poor performances because everyone wants to dump on the kid because he took the place of their own player.

I think you are misreading it tbh, but I’m not sure if you are referring to my posts or not.

There’s no appropriation of blame, or talk about at who’s feet any “fault” lies.

This is a discussion on who should be farrell’s first XV. My opinion is that SP isn’t playing well enough to be that starter.

I don’t get into the provincial BS either. I’ve supported Ireland for a long, long time, and have cheered on every 10 that has ever worn the jersey.

I’ll be in Italy next week , and Chicago in November. Green is green, and I’ll be hoping we all play well and we win.

My opinion is based on my knowledge of rugby and not the club the players I’m discussing play for. But it’s only one opinion, and isn’t worth any more or less than anyone else’s.

Nobody has issues with people saying Sam has to develop or that it was a poor performance. That is fine and nobody will deny that Sam has definite work ons. His first 6 nations was always going to be a baptism of fire.

But there is a number of posters who are only here to **** on him and revel in Ireland losing as they can pin the blame on him. No other player has come in for anywhere near that level of criticism. And there were plenty of worse performers against France.
There is no objectivity in looking at his performance. He can do nothing right in their eyes.

There's no objectivity in looking at Sam full stop, hes very flawed right now he has no buisness starting for ireland, when he flames out in 2 or 3 years the hype will be the reason for it

A very very talented young player thats been pushed to be something hes not

You don't get into the provincial bullshit, granted.

However there are many posters here who will never give up in their relentless quest to see Sam Prendergast fail. Why? Because he's starting over Crowley.

They don't care how poor the centres were yesterday because their team hasn't produced a centre for Ireland in over two decades.

And for the record, I thought Crowley should have been the starter for this campaign, or at least in the opening match against England.

Bordering on public bullying? Theres been some interesting takes by WUM accounts on here but your post seems quite genuine. Do you actually believe that?

I reckon irelands bluntness in attach is not only due to catts loss but also Lancaster leaving leinster hasn't helped, he had them playing heads up attacking rugby where as now with 9bar it's all SA power rugby and blitz defence unfortunately, grand at provincial level but dosent work for our players in international games as we can't overpower teams, ireland played way better rugby 2 or 3 years ago

You do post some bollix..

This is just like the McCarthy/Keane crap. Fact is no matter who played yesterday the result would have been the same. It was a French onslaught regardless.

What did he do that was so awful though? He had us playing in the right areas of the pitch, we had plenty of entries and time in their 22 which we didn’t convert. He kicked well. He played no worse than Nash, Joe, POM, Bundee, Robbie, JGP. He got smashed backwards in contact but so did Osborne multiple times, so did Robbie. France’s pressure cut off any passing options.
He had a bad game. But so did half the team. but he receives 5 times as much criticism as any other player.

Play tom aherne at 6, incredible athlete