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6N '25 Ireland v France Match Thread: Sat8th Mar 2:15 Farewell & Adieu to you POMs, Murrays & Healys

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,837 ✭✭✭✭phog


    2 backs on the bench, we're never subbing anyone unless absolutely necessary



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,420 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    OK, gotcha, thanks. Hope he's ok and hasn't lost any more teeth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭HanShotFirst


    I’m wondering was it just circumstances

    We actually completely dominated possession within their half….then boom French try. From a poor clearance kick by Osborne.

    McCarthy YC

    Then we score the try after halftime

    Nash YC

    Another French try (which shouldn’t have stood)

    We were chasing the game after their 1st try almost of the game and at critical stages down to 14 men twice.

    Didn’t lend itself to kicking to their back 3 and risking exposure to a counter attack and having to cover with only 14.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭For Petes Sake


    I seem to be alone here, but I thought we badly missed Ringrose today, especially in defence.

    France got a lot of joy out their backline, and seemed to get it out wide with relative ease with very little pressure from the 12/13 channels. Bundee was poor today and quite anonymous (the knock to the mouth could have played a part in that) and I see people saying Henshaw had a good game. Bar the last 10/15 minutes I thought he was very quiet as well. Yes he made his tackles but he didn't seem to put pressure on the backline in the way Ringrose does. Ringrose doesn't always make his tackles but he disrupts attacks consistently well, better than anybody in rugby imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭niallm77


    How? Beirne doesn't go after Dupont and only falls on his leg because a LHP latches onto him at pace abd drives through the ruck

    It's a 100% rugby incident which is unfortunate but there is no fault, duty of care etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭DellyBelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,869 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    lads, this is a different angle of Duponts leg injury.

    Viewer discretion. looks bad (for the squeemish)

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG8z1Tautnn/?igsh=djhrYW84ZDk5Ym5n



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,837 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I thought he got lucky not to be carded, let's see what happens now with the citing officer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭niallm77


    What would Beirne be carded for?

    JJust because France are moaning to the citing officer doesn't mean Beirne will be cited. It will be a disgrace if he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Most glaring issue for me is the utter lack of any pace, x-factor or creativity in the backline. All we have is slow, laboured and overly complicated scripted plays which are useless when theres no actual running threat. James Lowe is our only outside back capable of actually beating someone and making things happen. He bailed us out against England and Wales and we were lost without him today. Plus he's a 33 year old Kiwi and we won't be able to bring in another Kiwi to replace him. Someone needs to explain to me what Osborne offers other than being decent in the air and having a big boot. Just looks like another overhyped Leinster player to me. I've never seen a slower, clunkier looking back 3 player.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭exiledawaynothere




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    Totally agree Ringrose is an exceptional defender. Like any loss we can speculate away about would it have been different. I have no doubt with Ringers and Lowe we would have been better, considerably better but the dominance of the French forwards especially after the bomb squad came on was the turning point and we were always going to struggle when you are being so bullied up front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭For Petes Sake


    "What does Jamie Osborne offer?"

    Says someone who clearly hasn't watched much rugby involving Jamie Osborne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Thinking back, the replacement French scrum half had a fine second half. He was everywhere and his passing was crisp. Great speed too.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭For Petes Sake


    Oh I don't believe we would have won the game if Ringrose and Lowe were there considering how beaten up the pack were. However, I don't think the French backs would have had as much fun as they had and it might have brought us into bonus point range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Every game he's played since u20s. What does he offer other than being good in the air and kicking the ball far?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭exiledawaynothere


    he is a fine player but not an international class wing. Lowe missing today showed that the cupboard is pretty bare at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭LostArt


    Not playing him on the wing or even 15 would be a good starting point. Admittedly I've been involved in coaching him over the years, and he's without doubt the most natural footballer I've been involved with bar one other. In saying that both Leinster and Ireland need to nail him down to one position asap imo. What does he offer? he runs fantastic lines, picks the right pass mostly and defends very well when playing in midfield.

    Nice to see Doris is no longer your pet project btw.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭almostover


    Losing Hansen, Ringrose and Lowe for this game proved a bridge too far for us. Despite my worries about Doris, he had a fine game and didn't seem laboured at all by his injury. He is a great player.

    Wing has become problematic for us. We've no real threat in the wide channels.

    We lost today's game in the 1st 20mins. Totally on top up front and scored the sum total of 0. All we had was a penalty off the post to show for utter dominance. France defended us easily enough because we had no threat out wide and a 10 who doesn't threaten the line. Prendergast is the perfect 10 if we had pace at 11, 13 and 14. We don't currently have that. We need someone who poses a threat themselves with ball in hand so that defences are pulled out of position allowing others through the middle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,571 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    TRC with the drive by post to shite on the team/player after a rare loss.

    Classic of the genre.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭For Petes Sake


    The poster specifically asked 'what does Jamie Osborne offer?' which isn't about his abilities as a winger but about his ability as a footballer.

    Again, it implies the poster simply doesn't watch much rugby which Jamie Osborne is involved in.

    It's typical hyperbolic nonsense that you read on social media after one game - and to be blunt, I don't think he was as bad as most of his colleagues in the backline today, including the opposite winger who certain fans were frothing at the fact he was dropped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭For Petes Sake


    So you have watched every single game of Jamie Osborne since U20s and you genuinely believe all he can do is kick a ball far and is good in the air.

    One of those is a lie, I'm sorry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,854 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Osborne was one our best players, certainly in the backs. Took crap ball and beat the gainline multiple times. He's wasted at 14, needs to be played at 12 or 13 where he's best



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭almostover


    Big Joe's stats for today.

    9 carries for 8m.

    6 tackles completed, 1 missed.

    1 yellow card.

    Someone needs to fire a rocket up that young lad. So much potential and physicality and using very little of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭JohnJoFitz


    None of the RTE panel agree with you. What was so crucial about that point in the game?

    The French try left Ireland 2 pts down with most of the second half to play, literally a kick of a ball in it. Ireland got absolutely destroyed from that point on, which is likely what would have happened anyway even if the try was disallowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Go on then. What else does he offer? To my eye he's not particularly fast. He's not dominant in contact. He doesn't have serious footwork. He butchered a certain try v Wales by throwing a god awful pass. He's scored 6 tries in 57 Leinster appearances. What am I missing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Ireland had a backline minus Hansen, Lowe, Ring rose and Aki half banjaxed. Gibson Park picked today to be average.

    In the first quarter when Ireland owned the ball they have very little attacking options other than carries from Doris, Sheehan etc and France were able to soak it up. That gave France belief and put doubt in Irish heads..

    A lot of our joy this championship has come from Lowe doing something out of nothing rather than great back play.

    Our unsettled backline kicked poorly to.

    The loss of Dupont almost helped France, Lucu was fantastic and almost seems to suit France more.

    The POM decision for french try after half time was the end of the game, the French tails were up then.

    Sad final home game for three great servants but this is pro sport not a fairytale 😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,854 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,837 ✭✭✭✭phog


    From BlueSky

    Screenshot_2025-03-08-23-08-42-15_cb2df8437d99d85560b8f74042fc78eb.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Nice to see Doris is no longer your pet project btw

    Credit where credit's due, today was the first big game Doris has actually played well in



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