Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Do you know why not?

What is the hold-up?

What takes so long?

But the greens specifically asked for the integration brief. Roderick wanted it. the end result had NGO immigration policy and influence all over it. He published his white paper. God knows where we would be if covid hadn’t happened. I for one blame him. The same way I blame O’Brien for a 10k housing shortage, buck stops with him. they are the senior person at the cabinet meetings. They come with the proposals, their colleagues take them on good faith.

Also why do you think two weeks would let more ‘chancers’ get approved? now thats interesting.

That your response to one of the State’s court reporting agencies reporting the facts of a case is to dismiss it as dog whistling is something else indeed. What exactly is your issue with the description, was the individual in question actually Syrian? Will you provide evidence of that? Do you deny that the assault occurred? Will you provide evidence of that?

You’re being disingenuous, Court News Ireland is.

You find the substance of the two descriptions to be radically different did you?

Ah don’t back down! If the language used in that particular post is problematic then fine but it’s evident that the underlying issues - the dubious asylum claim based of false pretence, the significance of cultural difference etc. - are consistent throughout - and ultimately, that is what people have issues with, as I guess you agree…

I love the way he said it was his first time drinking, to explain it. I mean when I drink I get happy, when he drinks he wants to rape a girl and bite her face off.

It's genuinely quite disturbing.

There is obviously a willingness to look the other way when cases like this come up and to try to deflect attention on to other issues such as racism etc.

The Irish government and their policies are responsible for this woman being attacked. The guy should not have been in Ireland at all and yet he was allowed to stay and allowed to ultimately attack this woman.

Of course it's impossible to prevent all crime but why not at least stop the preventable ones from ever happening?

There is a view in Ireland that men are a problem and crimes like this will often lead to a discussion about men. With that in mind, nobody ever suggests that maybe we should stop importing more and more men.

For Irish blokes we are criticised for naughty jokes in the changing room and told that a woman would rather encounter a bear in the woods than one of us dangerous and predatory straight white Irish men.

We're stuck in a contradiction of wanting a country that is safe for women and wanting to change attitudes towards women but at the exact same time we are importing men who hold beliefs such as it was his first time drinking and they don't drink much in his country so he just violently sexually assaulted a woman because of the drink.

For those men though suddenly we are quite concerned about how they are referred to. Gotta make sure to say the correct and non offensive things about the violent sex offender.

People just seem willing to look the other way, because they don't think it will ever happen to them, and then go looking for their pat on the head for being a good and virtuous person that calls out racism.

When there's a sexual assault in Dublin and the main concern of some people is that the scumbag committing the assault was referred to in unkind terms then that's a problem.

I found this interesting as well.

I see it as an effort to put the blame on Western/Irish culture and practices for his behaviour. A sort of societal victim blaming.

He still managed to blame the victim individually, of course, claiming she "hit him first".

The suggestion is if only decadent Ireland were more like home, with no drinking and timid, supervised women, he would not have had to assault and attempt to rape anyone.

It's important to make the point now that, if you have been arguing that the IPA system in particular, and mass immigration in general, is in no need of serious scrutiny, rethinking and reform, you have no right to feel outraged by this attack or the many other similar.

This is the bed you want to lie in, and insist the rest of us lie in.

This is the Ireland you wanted and you are getting it.