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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭niallm77




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    "

    Are there players in Munster/Ulster/Connacht falling through the cracks or not getting to an academy standard because systems in place there aren't up to the job?"

    Specifically on this point above, I suspect that in the case of Ulster, that is very much what has happened. However, some of the cause / blame lies in the school system which has been emasculated for dubious political benefit by one group of 'politicians.' I remember posting well over 10 years ago on UAFC that Ulster Rugby was facing massive decline unless changes were made within it and the Ulster Branch with regard to selection and recruitment. The team were o.k. at the time so I was derided by some who couldn't see beyond the end of their nose. The demographical changes have been part of the quintuple whammy that has weakened the whole set-up.

    1. Crap Academy organisation and staffing.
    2. Destruction of the State / Private Grammar School system.
    3. Demographics
    4. The changes in Higher Education and the 'brain drain' to G.B.
    5. On top of that is the differential on earning power between Ulster and the other provinces. Ulster have to pay VAT on tickets at 20%. They also have to pay a vast sum every year to the Council in Business Rates which apparently were overlooked when the new stadium was commissioned. That required the unexpected payment of several hundred thousand pounds and is ongoing every year. Then of course there is the end of career tax break for retiring players in the other Provinces. I know that all the players are employees of the IRFU but why would a high quality International from Dublin move North for a similar income but lose out on the tax break for those years earnings? WE know some have done it but it might be another block on movement. Then there was the debacle over moving the La Rochelle game to Dublin which cost Ulster £900,000 loss of income when all the dust had settled.

    Having said all that it is still down to the demise of rugby at all levels. Just as success breeds success then failure breeds failure. Ulster's failures have been little by little by little until we end up 14th in the league table.

    Perhaps this anecdote will give a flavour of what I mean. A great friend of mine was a highly regarded coach. He had coached a major team in Belfast, played at the highest level below Ulster and was unlucky not to be in that mix in the 1970s and 80s. He was rugby to the core. He carried a disabled rugby player to the top of Slieve Donard in the Mournes, all 2786 feet of tough terrain. He led a team of others to the top of Kilimanjaro in aid of disabled players. He ran marathons to raise funds for that charity. A rugby hero in my view. Sadly he died 2 years ago. Even in his final months, riddled with cancer and in a wheelchair, he still attended the games at Kingspan.

    In his later years he coached a local club's U16. He came to visit me one evening and told me about this kid who played for his team, a 10. He said this guy was the best he had ever seen in his rugby years. So I went along to the next game. He was right. That young man had everything. Pace, power, size, skills and he kicked goals from all over his half. I attended one of the club's evening coaching sessions at which the head of the Academy was to visit. He turned up as the teams were doing warm up drills. He stood about for 5 minutes or so and then stated "There's nothing here," got in his car and left. I went with the team to play an U16 cup semi final. They won by over 50 points and the 10 was just out of this world. When the final came around I went along and the result was the same, they gave the other team a fearful drubbing, winning again by over 50 points and the 10 was just astonishing.

    A few weeks later, when the U16 representatives were selected, none of my friend's players were selected and the team was made up entirely of players from the 2 sides that had been royally thrashed. The coaches of the 2 losing teams were responsible for the U16 selection.

    Scroll forward a year or so. The young 10 moves up to the senior team group of players. He is by for the best player they have probably ever had. However, the Club captain played 10 so the young man got shoved in at full back week in and out and sometimes out. At the end of the season he packed it in and moved to a local soccer team in the amateur league.

    Ulster Rugby in a nutshell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    Hugh Cooney looked impressive with ball in hand, Tector continues to grow and was a real line threat in contact, and Tommy O’Brien looking like he’s very solid , that tackle !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Tector has looked better and better as the season has progressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭darkened_scrum


    Every other province should be trying to sign Tector if they'd any sense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,432 ✭✭✭crisco10


    I think he'd be mad to move. Barrett only here til end of season, and henshaw ringrose are aging. He could easily be thr next in line to 12 Jersey (with say Osborne at 13) if he keeps developing like he has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,944 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    https://bsky.app/profile/murraykinsella.bsky.social/post/3ljfotsa6r22c

    Incredible effort from TOB. Really hope he can stay healthy and finally get the caps he deserves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    I genuinely think Tommy O'Brien is the real deal talent-wise. Poor chap would have no luck if he didn't have bad luck with injuries though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,944 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    He would've been capped two seasons ago, and pushing Hansen for a starting slot, if not for the injuries. Savage player



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭50HX


    I wouldn't go that far, the level of opposition he has played is pretty much all URC based.

    He's never played high end CC games....yet

    He's a class act though & exactly what ire need...pity he's made of glass



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭FrannoFan


    I don't think anybody doubts Tommy O'Brien ability. Gets back in the Leinster side quickly, been selected for emerging Ireland and Ireland A.

    Poor lad just can't stay fit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah I'd agree with this. He might be the real deal, but we won't know until he's tested at tye higher levels.

    That tackle was an eye-catching moment but it's not really the point. It was a great piece of play and great tv. Careers aren't about a moment like that. They're based on doing the basics really well almost all the time.

    We won't know if he can do that until he's tested. I hope he stays fit and smashes it, BTW, but I'll wait and see how he gets on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Usual for on here. Player plays well and all of a sudden he's an international. Wait and see like you said before anointing, been here too many times before



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    He made two try-saving tackles yesterday. The other one was just as impressive with the way he snagged him from behind and swung around to get over the ball. Fair burst of speed, too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,944 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    He's been playing well for a good while, he's not some flash in the pan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Brutal story and no surprise kids who experience that walk away. At the club I coach at most of the captain’s dads are the coach’s. Same with a good few of the tens, it’s a curse across the rugby world, and one thing that separates the schools game from underage club game.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I didn't see the end of the game. Did Coffey get a run?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    The IRFU is today delighted to announce Joe McCarthy has signed a new long-term contract with Irish Rugby to commit his future to Ireland and Leinster Rugby until the end of the 2027/28 season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    IRFU deal for McCarthy

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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,833 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    wow, is he younger than when James Ryan signed one at 23?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    McCarthy is 23 too, turns 24 this month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    No - McCarthy is 24 this month, Ryan signed his deal when he was ~4 months younger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Back handed compliments are the best kind…

    Irish management don't agree with you

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2025/03/03/ireland-squad-update-16/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Deegan and TOB called up to Irish squad. Well deserved for both. Hopefully for his own and Leinsters sake, TOB can stay injury free for the rest of the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,944 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭50HX


    Re well deserved Deegan yes, he's had a good season.

    TOB has just put 2 games together in God knows how long



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    I've been watching Tommy O'Brien play rugby for years. Very few players in Ireland are as talented as he is, but when you're consistently injured it doesn't matter a jot.

    How often have you watched him play? F*ck all I bet.

    Anyway, he's been called up to the Ireland squad so looks like the coaches think he has something to offer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭50HX


    When you climb down from up high you may go back over previous posts where I have said I am a fan of TOB but don't let that get in the way of a good touchy rant for you.

    Note: I made an error in that I thought i posted that in the Ire thread.

    My point still stands



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    I wasn't even talking to you?

    Are you and leakyboots the same person?



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