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Sunsynk (DEYE) Hybrid Inverters

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭jasgrif11


    I purchased 2 X 8kW Deye inverters and mounted them in my Garage. They can get noisy on full charge or when supplying 5kW+ to the house, but no issue with them in the garage. They are setup in parallel and share both the load and charge (both are connected to the battery common busbar). In theory, I can charge at 280A from grid.
    As my meter box is also on my external garage wall I ended up installing a new primary CU in my garage and an industrial changeover.
    I have a large DIY battery.
    To echo @SD_DRACULA I would recommend putting everything in the garage, you will need the room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    In hindsight I should have went dual 8kw as well. Introducing another point of failure sure, but now you also have redundancy if one inverter bites the dust you're still going at half power or if you need to service one etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Thing is also I will probably have to get an NC7 if I am expanding..my wife works as a manager in ESB Networks and I have to be above board on this😕….. That saying if I do go down the NC7 route it has its advantages in that I can upgrade my MEC and maximise FIT payments. I have a 16kVA connection and the transformer for my house is just for my house its not shared.

    Did some research today about the 16kW Deye inverter and it might be harder to get approval for that then maybe two standard enough 8 kWs.

    Things are going to get expensive…need to write a business case at this stage..

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I would not assume your MEC will increase if you get an NC7, you may be restricted well below your MIC level

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Sunsynk do that same 16kw version, I'd say they have all the required certs but just costs more because of name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Are any of you using Home Assistant to automate force discharging your battery? Yesterday was the first day it was possible/worthwhile for me as the SoC was high enough. I've a simple enough automation at 10.30pm if SoC is > 30% enable export, limit to 3kw and then shut off if SoC <15% or the time is 1.55am. It worked quite well for a first attempt but was wondering what you guys did/do?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,471 ✭✭✭championc


    I have one which is per hour and dumps if above a particular % each hour, dropping by 15% each hour.

    So 9 - 10 will only discharge down to 60%, 45% by 11, 30% by 12, and 15% by 1am, leaving 15% for the last hour.

    So if the % is below a level for that hour, it won't discharge.

    So it stops over discharging throughout the evening, especially now that I have a heatpump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Abromavich


    The Deye 12kw inverter has a max battery charge/discharge current of 250A. I will be using up to the max current. Is a 250A breaker the correct size breaker to use between the inverter and battery busbar or is slightly bigger needed?

    Also in addition to the breaker is a mega fuse between breaker and battery busbar also recommended. I read a 250A megafuse (within lynx distributor) can sustain 250A or is 275A preferable?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    I've been charging at 250a just fine on the 250a jean muller switch, and also you will not see 250a go through it, real value will be 230a due to conversion losses anyway.

    Also the 12kw inverter might have 200a breakers on each battery terminal inside (check the manual, the 16kw version does and they might be the same inside) so you got that extra safety.

    And as long as the battery box has its own breaker too should be golden.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Abromavich


    Great, so Ill try source the 250A Jean Muller switch.

    What size megafuse is needed for the inverter? Or is this totally unnessary

    Yes the battery boxes Im ordering each have an integrated 250A switch, these do seem oversized though given the boxes use a JK 200A BMS…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I've been doing this, but I noticed last night that if the home load exceeds the discharge rate on the battery, it's pulled from the grid. When I enable export, I'm setting the export limit to 2kw. Is there a better way, or should I just let it export a greater amount?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,471 ✭✭✭championc


    I export at 5kW. Why not ? It my export for 5 mins or 105 mins, depending on your SOC%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I guess I was initially trying to figure out what minimum SoC I needed to get from midnight to 2 am and was exporting at a lower powe but have a good idea now, thanks for the advice!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,471 ✭✭✭championc


    That's why I export based on my SOC%. I break it down every hour. So it's a controlled discharge and you can only barely drop below your set point at the end of each hour.

    In other words, if you hit your setpoint at 22:10, you just have normal usage until 23:00. With a few % gone in that 50 mins, you could finally sh dumping at 23:45 when it hits your next setpoint.

    Doing every hour means that you cannot hit the bottom at maybe 22:30 and then run out early



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Abromavich


    Very clever - is done on the inverter or through HA?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,471 ✭✭✭championc


    Automation in HA controlling the inverter. The mode needs to be changed, based on the SOC% being read



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭paddy236


    Another option is solar assistant: https://solar-assistant.io/

    I'm running it on a raspberry pi zero. I like that it's separate to home assistant as I'm always messing with home assistant and I don't want the risk of messing up the inverter config/schedule.

    I send the data from solar assistant to home assistant through mqtt.

    The schedules are easy to build in home assistant.

    Screenshot_2025-02-28-19-14-58-21_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg Screenshot_2025-02-28-19-14-46-18_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭paddy236


    For sunsynk 5k, does anyone know how to change the solar priority order from load, battery, grid to load, grid, battery?

    The only way I have found so far is to set the max charge current to 0 but I'd like to be able to set this to 32A and still prioritise the grid 1st.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Abromavich


    Has anyone successfully connected the output of a Solis (or other) inverter to the generator port of a Deye inverter without any issues exporting all the power to the grid? The manual doesn't provide clarity on this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Any tutorials on how to set this up? Seems nifty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭paddy236


    Their website has very good instructions for installing on the raspberry pi(or purchase an orange pi with solar assistant already installed), connecting the lead to the inverter and configuring the software:

    https://solar-assistant.io/help/getting-started/prepare-device

    Once it's all connected the charts will already be working. And then you can setup the automations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭paddy236


    Anyone any feedback on this?

    I'd be surprised if others haven't needed this.

    With max charge current set to 0, the solar PV is capped at 5500w. Grid export is maxed out at 5000w.

    Screenshot_2025-03-03-11-21-50-67_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

    With max charge current set to 22A, the solar PV is maxed out at 6500w. Grid export is maxed out at 5000w and battery is charging at ~1200w.

    Screenshot_2025-03-03-14-04-20-74_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

    However if solar is <6500w then it's the FIT that gets reduced 1st, not the battery charge.

    Screenshot_2025-03-03-12-45-44-70_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

    I want to maximize FIT so I want to keep this at 5000w but I also don't want to waste the remaining 1200w when I could use it to charge the battery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Something to manage this would be ideal for me too. I'm limited to my original inverters export 4kw but can produce 6-7kw now. I have different automations plus an eddi crudely managing anything over 4kw on export basically, if I'm exporting more than 4kw for > 30 secs, the eddi must be full, so I enable battery charging and divert up to 2kw there but that can leave similar to your pic above with just 2kw going to the grid and 2.5kw to the battery .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭Ballylad


    Hi

    Looking for some advice, putting up off grid 8.5kw carport, have a 8.5kw Deye single phase hybrid inverter, looking at hysone 72kw battery unit ex China , want to charge cars off this carport , is this doable or will I require some connectivity to grid,

    Does anyone know of any Chinese suppliers with warehouses in Europe, looked at sunway but they working out expensive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭tnegun


    The Deye can run completely off the grid, you need to do the sums to determine if you will have sufficient panels and solar to charge during the winter months. The Deye can take a generator input too so that may work as a plan B if needed. If you're willing there's plenty of info on how to DIY a battery and kits available locally that are as good as the off the shelf batteries and for substantially less without the wait and hassle of importing direct from China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Is anyone familiar with how the export limit works in practice on the Deye? I've mine set to 4kw, but it appears to allow more (I've an Eddi kicking in at 4.2kw). I've 2 inverters a Deye and a smaller Solis before I installed the Deye I had two Solis string inverters and had export limiting enabled on the larger one. This worked well, and if it saw the combined export exceed 4kw, it reduced its output to keep it under the 4kw limit so there would be a brief spike and then the limit would kick in. The Deye doesn't seem to be responding as quickly or may not be taking the second inverter's output into account for export calculations? It can see it as it registers the export but doesn't seem to be limiting, and the eddi is kicking in. It may be the case that the eddi is reacting too quickly, but I was just wondering if anyone else is using the export limiting with a grid side string inverter too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    You would want a seriously large solar array to power a car in winter offgrid, much bigger then a 8.5kw invertor can handle. Makes more sense with some other input, like Hydro or wind. And in the end, there is zero chance it's not significantly cheaper to hook up to the grid and use the overnight EV rates.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Generally speaking..I'd have EDDI kicking in below the level of your export limit e.g. set grid export to 4kw and EDDI to 3.8kW

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭Ballylad


    I already have large array and battery for house, this carport is just for 9months of year so as house is fully self sufficient and export to grid, taking cars off house supply greatly helps things ,



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