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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭boardise


    Doubtful if 'Ireland' has any more virtue left to signal after the extended love-in with their Pals in

    Gaza.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,523 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    it not a new tune.

    Trump’s treatment of Zelensky was disgusting. I think most agree here. His arriving the White House in his attire is separate. Not that difficult to grasp, cluedo.

    Anyway, no big deal really. Just an observation-opinion. Nobody has to agree with it.

    I’m actually one most vocal/ardent critics of Trump as a leader and as a person.

    Post edited by walshb on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭freddie1970


    surely people must be regretting their vote now . Whatever your opinion is on DEI trans rights immigration or the price of eggs . You have to see how much of a **** show this is .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,678 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    In a social media post Kaja Kallas, the EU high representative for foreign affairs and security policy, wrote: “Ukraine is Europe! We stand by Ukraine. We will step up our support to Ukraine so that they can continue to fight back the aggressor.

    “Today, it became clear that the free world needs a new leader. It’s up to us, Europeans, to take this challenge.”

    Yes damn straight, we've already isolated one dictator, now we have do another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Papagei


    Obviously he doesn't want to say anything negative about Putin, that would just make Putin dig his heels in deeper. He has to be nice to Putin if he wants to convince him to stop the war.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,839 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I agree. Trump is a clown and Vance is a snake. They set up Zelensky and he walked himself right into their trap.

    This will all play out very well to Trump’s base and he doesn’t give a toss about the other side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Except pretty much anyone vaguely aware of the war knows that Zelensky said he isn't putting on a suit until it's over. So him to suddenly suit up now would be pretty inappropriate.

    Also worth noting that question from the press was from MTG's boyfriend so a setup. Pretty much any self respecting journalist wouldn't have been querying it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    Exactly.

    I imagine Taiwan are watching in horror, as they know they are next, and the USA won't help as long as this current administration is in charge.

    Clever word play may win debates, but it doesn't make it true.

    Understanding and explaining things, is not the same as justifying them, if in doubt… please re-read this statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Why do you think that when it was an obvious set up ambush?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Papagei


    I'm not privy to the conversations between the US and Russia. Who knows what's actually being discussed.

    Trump wants to improve the financial situation of America, that's his intention. Whether he is going about it the right way is a different matter. He likes to be forceful and put pressure on other countries to get them to accept his terms and conditions. Tariffs are a short term pain in his view. He may be very wrong about that however.

    Zelensky is clearly in a weak position, Russia are relentlessly assaulting his country, without US support it will be very difficult to keep them at Bay.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You claimed Trump is doing it very debt reasons, Trump's tax plans are gonna exponentially increase debt. Trump is doing all this because he is Putin's bitch, Trump's been president before and did nothing in relation to their debt. During that time he did attempt to extort Ukraine and had a weird relationship with Russia though. This time he's just gone full in on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Papagei


    On What basis is he Putin's pitch?

    Why do you think DOGE was created? He wants to eradicate wasteful expenditure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    It really is sickening that Michael Martin has to pucker his lips to kiss Trumps Ass...

    I predict Trump will take light enough pot shots at MM similar to his jibe at Zelensky yesterday about "getting dressed up".....saying Ireland is making a fortune off the back of US companies etc...

    MM will try to keep it light and go full leprechaun.....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,728 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Except Neville Chamberlain was genuine when he went to seek "peace for our time" in 1938. Chamberlain had lived through the First World War and was eager not to see a repeat of such a thing and the death and destruction that it had unleashed upon Europe.

    Mr. Bone Spurs has never seen what war can do, nor has he ever had a genuine position on anything in his life that wasn't solely about him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Uboat


    USA owes nothing neither to Ukraine nor to Taiwan.

    USA after Zelensky's words "we are alone" shouldn't help any country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,851 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Help me out here - I can't figure out if this is satire or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Keep in mind, that this is essentially how Donnie and his fellow goons generally operate.

    He lacks the finesse and frankly the intelligence to use his “inside voice” during public summits and then save the arguments for the actual meeting room. What we saw there was the actual negotiation in front of the cameras, which likely took Zelensky by surprise since only a nitwit would do that willingly. But of course we have Donnie and his enablers there.

    This is why the resulting negotiations were so short, and why there was no resulting press conference afterwards. The Orange Lummox let himself thump his chest like an incontinent elderly gorilla, and torpedoed the opportunity of potentially good minerals deal for both sides. Vance was clearly more interested in generating MAGA-friendly snippets about about not being thankful or pointless stupidity about not wearing a suit.

    The “negotiation” was essentially, “Sign this one-sided agreement or else”. They wanted to bully him.

    Problem with that plan is of course, is that Zelensky is not a coward. He faced down the Russian army rushing down the motorway to take his head, and he gave up evacuation with a request for ammo. “I need ammo, not a ride”. Of the 3 men in thar room who have “President” in their title, I would dare say that only one of them truely deserve it, and all going well we’ll see statues of that man, which his words etched onto them to inspire future generations about what an actual leader looks like.

    Things are going to get hard, they were going to anyway with Donnie’s re-election. But the likes of Zelensky, and courage of conviction he displayed yesterday should inspire us all to stand up for what we actually believe in, in the face of craven self-serving stupidity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Uboat


    Russia attacks not relentlessly enough. Putin's fault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    DOGE exists as a propaganda exercise and for Musk to get unrestricted access to the US government. Musk has literally lied about multiple expenses and supposed fraud. Meanwhile the department of State just announced 400 million on armored Teslas. Meanwhile Trump's tax cut will exponentially increase debt which you seem to be avoiding.

    The US just voted against condemning Russia for invading Ukraine. They voted alongside the likes of North Korea and Russia. On top of that, his administration has implied Russia was justified in their invasion. He is absolutely Putin's bitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭boardise


    Maybe if he crawls in on his belly and kisses Trump's shoes -the political miracle-working supergenius

    might throw him a few crumbs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    And what about the last time he was president when he wouldn't say anything negative about him either?

    When he actually took the word of Putin over that of his own intelligence/security services.

    What war was he trying to stop then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭boardise




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    To eradicate wasteful expenditure takes time and a plan.

    Doge is just to take a hatchet to any potential resistance or oversight to what trump and his pals want.

    More power/money/control/ lack of personal repercussions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    He isn't pulling back. Just last week he was talking taking over Gaza ffs. Trump would turn Iran into glass in an instant given any motivation.

    This isn't about pulling back or the imperialism like Reagan was constantly engaged in. This is about providing support (not boots on the ground) to a sovereign nation illegally invaded by a murderous tyrannical dictator that once he triumphs in Ukraine has Moldova, Baltics next on his list and then Poland. And when war breaks out between Russia and Poland its going to make Ukraine and Gaza conflicts look like a child's tea party.

    It's in all our best interests that Putin and his enablers are stuck in the mud in Donbass fighting farmers instead of conquering half of Europe which has been the plan this whole time.

    We have known for a decade now that Trump is Putins puppet, the Republican senate committee said Putin helped Trump win in 2016. I wouldn't be surprised that very soon Trump will start providing military support to Russia..watch this space



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,728 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    This idea that Trump is just a, so called, "business man", is only a sad effort to try and excuse his appalling behaviour yesterday and in general. He's neither a business man nor a politician. He's just some bully boy scrote that happened to be born into wealth and has had everything in life handed to him. He has a list of FAILED businesses behind him and yesterday's ludicrous display is an example of why. Anyone looking at that nonsense in the White House and thinking that that was good business should stay well out of such a game. Anyone thinking it was good politics should do likewise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Lol DOGE was created to remove career civil servants and replace them with Trump loyalists meaning nobody can then block Trumps agenda and he becomes a President for life...its all outlined in Project 2025 how they will accomplish it step by step.

    If Trump and Musk were serious about getting rid of wasteful expenses they wouldn't be targetting park rangers, hurricane researchers, food safety inspectors and flight safety workers; instead focus on where the real waste is ie the hundreds of billions in subsidies each year to oil companies or the hundreds of billions of tax payers money to pharmaceutical companies only for same companies to charge highest drug prices in the world in the same country which bankrolls them..the US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,732 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    So how is spending millions on Musk-cans eradicating wasteful expenditure?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Why would they regret it.

    Americans, like many others don't really care about what happens to Ukraine at the end of the day.

    They see that less spending on weapons for Ukraine means more spending in the US.

    Just like they didn't care when the US left Afghanistan to the Taliban.

    How many times have you read posters here complaining about how much Ireland spends on foreign aid ?

    If we elected a government that said they would not spend a penny more outside of Ireland they would be popular also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    This idea that Trump is just a, so called, "business man", is only a sad effort to try and excuse his appalling behaviour yesterday and in general.

    I'm not excusing his behavior, I'm just not surprised by it.

    People need to leave the constant "I can't believe what he has done/said...." at the door.

    He's been around for almost a decade.

    He's liable to say anything, and if a situation is anyway transactional he's likely to frame it as some sort of business deal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Let this be a lesson to all of us if we needed a reminder. In all walks of life, if you are heading into a negotiation and the other parties exclude you from the initial meeting. You are being set up 100% of the time.



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