Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

At least one Donald likes him

Zelensky it his credit did not punch the fuxker there and then, incredible self restraint

He also ran circles around him verbally despite English not being his language

But seeing markets are continuing to freefall I suspect not long before Trump gets his ass slapped around by the markets

If it's any consolation I'd say the Russians are as wary of Trump as the rest of us. From what you read they worry him to be a loose cannon and what may seem favourable now could turn just like that. Putin himself even said it before the US election that while Biden is openly hostile he is at least a calculable factor like that.

FWIW while I agree with many of Trumps points and I also agree that Zelenksy seems to be still in cloud cuckoo land with the way he thinks about the war and possible outcomes - the way this was done was disgraceful. Disagreements like this can happen but then they must happen behind closed doors and then you can come out saying there are still differences to be ironed out, but it should not happen before the press. You do not to try to humiliate someone like that, Trump did himself no favours here at all.

American is every bit as untrustworthy than Russia. You can't trust America again even if a Democrat becomes President.

Exactly.

They had picked their side already and were going to humiliate him whether he signed the deal or not.

This is a bad day for Ukraine , Europe and also for the US whether they realize it or not .

They have elected a president and vice who live on conspiracy theories and social media who can only grasp facts if fed to them in an egocentric MAGA sycophantic way .

There is no intelligence , diplomacy or even basic decency in that office anymore .

Time for Merz & Macron to take centre stage. Trump attempted to sideline Europe now they need to do the same in return. Merz is preoccupied with coalition talks. But it’s the perfect time to secure a bolder direction for the incoming German government in the negotiations with the SPD. If these two lead the rest of the EU (sans Orban & Fico) will follow. More weapons, more money, more infrastructure/capacity support, more everything. And stop tap dancing around Trump’s ego. If things need to be said then say them.

I said that all along but nobody here would even entertain that. All up in their US & Ukraine admiration mode.

America has interests and thats that. All their talk about democracy and values is just talk you can never trust their motives. Ukraine was just a pawn in their chess game like countless other pawns before. And it suited certain powers in Ukraine and they thought they could poke the bear. But it was insanity from the start and it cost Ukraine dearly and Zelensky will have to live with that and will ultimately have to answer for that. I feel so sorry for the people there. As usual its the ordinary folks who have to pay for all this grandstanding power hungry nonsense of so called leaders.

Today was a day of infamy.

There will be ex-military service personal throughout the USA who will know what Ukraine is going through.

Add to that Trumps tariff induced recession will rouse the politically apathetic.

Besides the Ukrainian nationalists, Europe (EU + Britain) are going to experience severe consequences of losing the war. Europe is starved of cheap resources (rare earths, fertile land, and cheap Russian gas). It is de-industrialising as a consequence of its obsession with net zero carbon/green deal economic central planning. It is militarily depleted. In addition populations across Europe increasingly seethe at the liberal EU establishment.

I imagine the current American administration see these as positives! They make Europe weaker for the coming trade war. This may well set the EU and Britain on more direct conflict with Russia.

who’s this whack job on Sky right now?

Is USA & Russia not a bit like once sworn enemies Fianna Fáil and fine Gael cosying up together for personal financial gains for themselves and their friends ?

Interior Ministry Colonel in charge of combating economic crime and corruption in Russia is found dead in his office shot by his own pistol. Corruption in Russia. Dangerous job.

http://kommersant.ru/doc/7535733?from=top_main_2

Vance is really trying too hard, doesn't he know he's a few wrong words away from being Mike Pence II?

There were 3 starting points in this-

1. Trump made sarcastic comments on Zelenskyy's dress the moment he arrived.
2. More comments were made about his dress in the press conference "Do you have a suit"
3. This is the start of the debacle. Vance suggested diplomacy. Zelenskyy then asked how can you be diplomatic with Putin when he betrays everyone he agrees with. Vance lost it here because he could not answer. He was angry because Zelenskyy has far greater knowledge of this than he does.

Vance is an ignorant bastard. HE is the one that was being disrespectful, arguing in public like some drunk in an alleyway. Appalling.