Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I have seen it. Satire is dead again. I thought when I first saw it was some kind of parody account . Can you imagine the condemnation if the Chinese leader released a similar video about his vision for Taiwan. The gold statue, if we didn't know already, says it all about Donnie- it reminds me of other leaders who were fond of statues of themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if Donnie somehow tries to stay on for a third term.

Well clearly the ICJ thinks it has gone far beyond self defense. You might try to employ the witchhunt/ anti semitism card but unfortunately for you one of the judges who reviewed the evidence is a holocaust survivor. Also others leaders have been indicted since charges were brought against Bibi and Gallant. As for war being brutal, it is, but it doesn't excuse war crimes- you wouldn't be as quick to use the self defense doctrine if a state invaded Israel and started commiting war crimes then cited the total war doctrine. I suspect in such a scenario you would be full of condemnation and calling for that state to be held to account.

Are you suggesting that I have an issue with brown Muslims??

When terrorists embed themselves amongst the most vulnerable members of the population bad things will always happen .

Those tunnels didn’t dig themselves………

More on the targeting of medical personnel -

"During interrogations, he says he was tortured and beaten. “They would throw me on the ground. One would hit me on the head while the other opened my ear and poured water inside,” he says.

“There was a bathroom [in the interrogation room] … [they] would take a toilet brush and tell me ‘today we are going to brush your teeth.’ I was tied up, blindfolded and three or four of them held my face, pinned it down and kept scrubbing.”

Abu Ajwa says they broke his teeth: “They have no humanity.”

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/feb/25/israel-gaza-doctors-surgeons-healthcare-detention-international-law?fbclid=IwY2xjawItZI9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQoYZk2wsR0USVv1jAAQxTQm4qFTgWk48ZsddsmMISiDVFx1fkGAkQ47UA_aem_f_77WIcS8GzydiVBqoYI6A

Which part of those responsible for war crimes should be prosecuted is hard to understand? Anyone who is responsible should be held accountable.

Ah now, no need for the deflection there. It's a simple question - I'll shorten it to just the one:

Do you think all efforts should be made to bring Netanyahu and Gallant to The Hague to stand trial for War Crimes?

I have absolutely no idea. The flippancy in your posts when you speak about Palestinian lives being taken violently...

I.e. Innocents die in war, Israel is defending itself, ah about the babies again!

.... makes me think you don't particularly value their lives very much, or see them as having much worth.

Am I picking you up wrong, or do you think all the innocent Israelis killed on October 7th as being collateral damage aswell? Do you say "ah about the babies again!" when people mention infants killed on October 7th?

If not, there must be a reason, and I'm wondering if Palestinians being white and Christian would change your apparent view on them.

Are Hamas not a terrorist group? Terrorist groups don't tend to play by rules (well neither do democratic countries either it seems, which this particular one gets free passes for).

The existence of terrorism doesn't mean its ok to mill through hundreds of thousands of civilians and completely destroy a city of 2 million people, blockade aid and food, drop 2000ibs bombs on tented villages, because some of them might be terrorists. What if the British decided to do that here because of the IRA - would you think that acceptable?

You're suggesting I'm racist/anti 'brown Muslim'

You couldnt be further from the truth so I won't be replying to any of your trolling posts.

How in the world did you get that? I said anyone responsible for war crimes should be brought to justice and held accountable, regardless of their nationality, ethnicity or anything else.

How does that work when the state, itself, is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity?

Israel's monstrous behaviour over the last year or so isn't just a case of a few bad actors. It's a matter of state policy being enacted.

Many reputable sources, including Israelis, have confirmed both facts - Israel built tunnels in Gaza and Netanyahu funded Hamas. So not "chaff" at all.

It's interesting how, when challenged, it suddenly becomes "not relevant". I wonder why that is?

But we are agreed that both Hamas and Israel are capable of atrocities - though 95% plus of those atrocities lie squarely at the feet of the IDF and Israeli govt. Borne out by the fact that the ICC and ICJ are involved.

Bear in mind, the current ceasefire deal was put to Israel by Hamas last summer. Israel chose not to take it - presumably because they were keen to turn Gaza into dust and shred every living thing. They even had daily tourist buses head over there to view the Genocide in all its glory. This simply proved that the govt. didn't care one jot about the Palestinians or the hostages and their families. They still don't.

The libs have empathy for Palestinian civilians.