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Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    And you'd wonder what "The Source" is;

    "The source said it is “highly unlikely” that a prosecution can be brought without the discovery of Ms Clarke’s body.

    A garda spokesperson said: “Do not assume that An Garda Síochána either knows that information and/or that it has limited value. Let the investigation team make that assessment.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭julyjane


    I wonder is it so they'll panic and act strangely and by the time they're arrested they'll be all over the place, if they are innocent they have little to worry about but maybe they're being watched.

    Someone local to me committed a murder some years ago and it was rumoured that the gardaí were watching him but never said they had a person of interest, he was seen entering an area where he might have been intending to take his own life but because he was being watched they stopped him and eventually he was locked up. Some were saying they should have let him kill himself but death would have been too good for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,773 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    John Crearer, the killer of Phyllis Murphy, died in prison recently. Hes occasionally been put forward as a suspect in some of the vanishing triangle cases. While I reckon he can be ruled out in virtually all of these one case that has his hallmark written all over it was the murder of Kathleen Farrell in the Curragh in 1972.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    Listening to RTE podcast about Jon Jonsson - it's just bizarre and horrifically sad. The family are in bits, god love them. How the hell does a grown-ass man - and a pretty big guy - just vanish suddenly without a trace? And it was about 11am.

    I'm mint.

    🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41570284.html

    Oh my god that poor young woman. It mentions the abuse of children in the house where Elizabeth last resided, and of a vulnerable adult. Elizabeth herself has been described in other reports as vulnerable also. There's a "Find Elizabeth Clarke" page and other relevant posts on Facebook.

    The evil out there. What a world.

    I'm mint.

    🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    So strange, and on a very busy road at 11am. It’s weird that Jon wasn’t picked up on dashcam footage from a bus or another vehicle somewhere along that road. He seems to have disappeared almost immediately after he left the hotel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,514 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    That the probible serial killer ìn the midlands wasn't convicted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭Banjo Carney


    From the podcast:

    According to CCTV footage released by An Garda Síochána, Mr Jónsson was not distressed when he exited the Bonnington Hotel.

    He walked past McGettigan's pub and headed towards the Swords road. He then walked off-camera, as he reached the main road and turned right.

    Mr Jónsson is then seen on the Swords Road, passing Highfield Hospital.

    Now, if you have been following this story, you might be screaming - WE ALREADY KNOW THIS INFORMATION.

    But what happened next? Additional CCTV footage was retrieved from a bus that drove down the main Swords road the morning Mr Jónsson vanished.

    This data, combined with other CCTV footage, gave Mr Jónsson a three-minute window to disappear.

    Because there were no other roads he could have taken, gardaí told Mr Jónsson’s family the most likely explanation was that he got into a vehicle and was driven away from the scene.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Always wondered if he’d jumped on the first bus that came along, into town or out to the airport as there are stops on both sides of the road near highfield, but presumably there’d be cctv on the buses.
    There’s a few odd things, his partners passport went missing as they were to travel, he came alone on the Friday, she got a new passport, arrived at the hotel on Saturday morning and he left 30 minutes later. He left his wallet, passport and phone behind him in his hotel room but earlier on Saturday, had called his partner from an unknown number.

    He had over 5k for the trip, he lost 2.5k but was also holding 2.5k for other players coming later for the tournament. He was the treasurer for a poker group.No report if the rest of the money was found or not.

    It must be agonising for his family not knowing what happened. Did he plan to disappear and start a new life or was he mugged / robbed in that few minutes. If he was abducted, you’d think someone would have seen something happening on such a busy main road at 11am on a Saturday morning. It’s a very strange case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Awfully sad to watch the story of Marie Kilmartin on TG4 last night. My heart goes out to her daughter Aine who is still desperately seeking answers. I just hope that somebody will come forward with the truth.

    https://www.tg4.ie/ga/player/seinn/?pid=6369101928112&title=Marie%20Kilmartin&series=Mar%C3%BA%20in%C3%A1r%20Measc&genre=Faisneis&pcode=695074



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    That is dreadful.

    Reminds me of Barbara Walsh: https://www.irelandcrimesandmysteries.ie/blog/barbara-walsh/

    Although her remains have never been found.

    I'm mint.

    🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    From the most recent podcast it has changed from a missing person to a murder investigation, they received 2 letters, nearly exactly a year apart saying where his remains were buried.

    In a previous podcast it states that the missing passport was just genuinely missing, she found it months later in her sister's car that she had borrowed when hers had broken down, there was nothing untoward about it at all.

    Also from the lad playing Poker with him that night, CCTV in the hotel it seems that he had lost a lot more than 2.5k, I think his partner said he lost all the cash that he had brought over with him.

    It is very odd that he just walked out without taking his phone or wallet with him when he's not familiar with the area.

    A very strange case altogether, I feel for his children and step-children, they seem to be really struggling with it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭Banjo Carney


    If I remember correctly he brought €3000 buy in money for other players and left it at hotel reception when he arrived. He went on to lose all his own money and at some stage got the €3000 from reception and lost that too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Ye that's what I had thought, he lost around €6k, not really enough to disappear someone over. It's a very odd case, looking forward to the next episode and really hope his family can get some sort of conclusion and closure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,773 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Murder investigation according to who? I'm not aware of it being officially upgraded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    I thought the implication with the missing passport was that he hid it because he didn't want her going to Dublin too.

    I'm mint.

    🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Have you listened to the latest podcast, episode 6?

    Apologies I listened back, it hasn't been officially upgraded to a murder case but is being treated as a criminal case more than a missing persons

    Garda Sergeant Damian Beakey said that after the gardaí received these notes, their attitude towards the investigation shifted. He said their actions are more in line with that of a criminal investigation than a missing persons case.

    https://www.rte.ie/culture/2025/0226/1499159-where-is-jon-episode-six-recapped-the-notes/

    Ye the podcast made it sound like that alright, more than likely just for dramatic effect to add suspense as they knew that the passport was just left in the sister's car by mistake before they released any episodes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭LunaLoo


    A woman connected to the Elizabeth clarke case died this week, the woman would have been Elizabeth's (ex?) Partners mother and grandmother to Elizabeth's children. She was supposedly found in a bad way in the house that was searched at the beginning of the searches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 anonymou25


    It’s almost 2 years since a couple was arrested for the murder of the Kerry Baby. Still no progress on the investigation according to an article in the Irish Independent recently. I can’t see how justice can ever be done at this stage but surely there should be some sort of conclusion now that the parents (alleged) have been found, and still together years later. That poor baby and Joanne Hayes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,184 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    As far as understand the investigation is complete and no file has been send to the DPP

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    No file sent to the DPP yet, but investigation continues.

    From last week;

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/kerry-baby-investigation-no-file-sent-to-dpp-on-couple-at-centre-of-baby-john-mystery/a191719884.html

    "The investigations conducted in the past two years have been extensive. It remains to be seen whether those investigations have yielded any evidence that can be included, along with the DNA, in the file to the DPP…..The Garda Press Office said in a statement this weekend that the investigation into the murder of Baby John is continuing and a file will be prepared for the DPP in due course."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,773 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Strange how Griffin has managed to evade detection in all this time, especially if he's in Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Strange how the only photos of him are relatively poor. Gardai haven't bothered to do a generated image of him and what he might look like today with and without a beard. Also no attempt at a biometric trace on his face and there seems to be no DNA of him anywhere.

    Seems to have been some incompetence on the part of the Gardai here from the outset. Not surprised when you look at the wider circumstances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,706 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The current case in Kerry with the farmer Michael Gaine seems to be unusual.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    https://www.anglocelt.ie/2021/11/18/director-believes-key-to-unidentified-man-lies-in-arrival/

    The Peter Bergman case. Amazing that nobody has ever recognised him yet, but I suppose they should really have ran pieces on german and austrian TV at the time, it's not too late, they still could.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭Gangu


    listening to the ‘where is Jon’ podcast. What happened to him do you think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Bizarre case. How can he not have been found by now I don't understand.

    This guy misses out on one thing: the Rav 4 belonged to Michael's wife, I believe his work vehicle was at the mechanics at the time so he borrowed hers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,511 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    The Mike Gaine case is extremely mysterious. And it is recent too. Can probably be solved if resources are kept available.

    And as for this whole " everyone in the locality knows what happened" nonsense. It makes me laugh. If that were the case then evidence would have been found by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,742 ✭✭✭Deeec


    It is an extremely odd disappearance. I think the gardai suspected foul play from the start. One of the first things they done was seize vehicles that were at the farm - very odd thing to do if they just thought he had an accident on the mountain or around the farm.

    I wonder are the gardai just biding their time with this case. It does seem like they know what happened and who is responsible but can't find the body.

    Anyway by all accounts he seemed a lovely man and I hope his wife and family find out what happened.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,387 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I think there's a documentary on tv3 tonight about the Gaines case.

    I don't know much about the case but the amount of continued resources thrown at does to me anyway, indicate they do know something ...the only other case I remember with continued searching was for the young boy and they found his body fairly quickly if I remember correctly.



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