Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

Looking at last weekends Ospreys game and today's Wales game, I think Jack Boyle might be the real deal. Winning scrum penalties all over the shop.

Jack Boyle has made his mark. Safe to put Cian to a well earned retirement

Have we played Tector at 10 this season? I'd have thought he'd be the natural choice, given how he did for the u20s

We have so many centres though. Osborne, Frawley, Turner, JOB, and that's before we get to the Academy lads coming through. Out the ears with them

Why does Ross Byrne moving to Gloucester and out of the Irish system prove anything other than he would prefer to leave Ireland than play for Ulster or Connacht and probably Munster? Moving players in areas where Leinster are stacked and other provinces are weak while keeping them in the Irish system seems to be a good solution to at least a couple of problems I could list anyway. Maybe not every problem but few things are.

Ross moved for improved money and a chance to be undisputed number 1.

Rumoured/reported money in England

AJ McGinty on 400k

Hastings on 450k

Maloney getting 250k

Despite what some internet nonsense goes on Leinster are not paying players crazy sums.

I don't think the provinces can rival that money for a player not in Irish squads even if Irish qualified

I have to think Ross would command a top wage. Played in multiple HC finals, including starting for all of the knock outs. Internationally capped. He'll be a brilliant OH at the Premiership level. He has every skill imo, bar a complete absence of fast twitch fibers.

I used to do some work with Gloucester when Humphreys was DOR there. At that time every club was allowed two signings outside the salary cap and they couldn't be recruited from a premiership club, had to come from outside. I think it was Xavier Rush and John Afoa at the time definitely the latter. I presume Ross would take one of these slots if it still works that way.

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They lost the Premiership Final last season by 4 points after getting a red card in the 21st minute, and currently top the table this season.

I think people are unrealistic about this, quite frankly, including players. There is one professoinal rugby employer in Ireland, players don't have a choice who they work for on the Island. They do have a choice where to work because the union grants that choice and the system or recruitment reflects that. Cops, nurses, civii servants, etc don't really have a choice where they work, they are assigned somewhere by their employer. The idea that players have a natural veto over where they work in Ireland is not a natural fact, the IRFU could change it any time they liked. Players could be sent wherever the union wanted them to go. That is not the system currently but that system could be instituted fairly easily. Players who qualify for an academy could be designated to a province and could be contractually obliged to remain there for x number of seasons, or they could choose to go abroad to become a pro. I'm not recommending it per se, but it is definitely within the power of the IRFU to institute some sort of system where players are more evenly distribruted.

Feel you're the unrealistic one and completely underestimating employment law here. I think you're wrong for both nurses and civil servants - they cant just be reassigned to another part of the country long term at a whim.

I am open to being corrected, but my understanding is that unless a contract includes language that the person can be moved to another location then the an employer, like the IRFU, cant just decide a guy who has been working in Dublin for the last 8 years must go to Galway in the middle of their contract or to a completely separate jurisdiction in the case of Belfast.

The IRFU could include whatever language they want in future contracts but it would just make them all less far attractive to sign. The IRFU would end up having to pay a premium to players to accept the loss of control of where they will live.