Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

The problem is that they refuse to let anyone who criticises their genocide in. They didn't like witnesses. Just look at all the Press they murdered.

She has some nerve trying to enter Israel, given her unwavering support for Palestine.

I just thought I'd share a link to this video I watched during COVID. The speech was made eight years ago, yet it is even more relevant today than it was back then. In many ways, it has proven to be remarkably prophetic. People in Ireland, Europe, and the Western world should listen and reflect on the points he makes about why anti-Semites are convinced they are not antisemitic.

Remember when the UN offered to carry out a full independent investigation of Sexual Violence on Oct 7th? But the Israelis refused because the UN said they also wanted to investigate allegations of Sexual Violence against Palestinians in captivity? Like the bloke who was anally raped with an iron bar by the IDF.

And remember when Netanyahu told the Israeli people, 80% of whom wanted an investigation into Oct 7th, and then refused them?

Oh, and the other day when they oddly put a gag order on any reporting of the "bus bombs" near Tel Aviv after arresting two Israelis?

Yes - they hate witnesses that would expose the truth…

• meanwhile aside from the posturing and the arguing, today is very cold and wet day in Gaza. Children, mostly newborns are dying from hypothermia because they have no dry homes. Meanwhile at the border there a lines of temporary homes and aid supplies - the movement of which is being blocked by the Israel/ USA axis. All part of American greatness?

Just proves that the s***housery is still continuing and they think people don't know it.

Seem that even Israelis are accused of being Hamas supporters…

"Israel's governing coalition has demonized the people who have been fighting for the hostages.

Last summer, Likud MK Nissim Vaturi called people calling for elections, a cease-fire and a hostage release deal 'an arm of Hamas.'

In September, Israeli police arrested a man who threatened Einav Zangauker, tireless campaigner for the return of her son Matan, and said that he would attack her at the next rally in support of a hostage deal.

"Only military pressure" has become a slogan for those who believe the only way to help the hostages is by leveling the cities where they're being held…

As more hostages come home and join the struggle to free their brothers and sisters, will they too be told that they're hurting their cause?" – Linda Dayan

Powerful opinion piece summing up that civilians on both sides are bearing the brunt of hostilities.

"Israel's government, Hamas, and now Donald Trump as well, prefer investing in abstention, manipulations and quarrels.

They devote all their resources to the conflict, to the occupation, to violent resistance, to oppression and a zero-sum game, instead of cooperating in a concerted effort to attain a shared existence.

They also latch on to unrealistic fantasies of an undivided Land of Israel, de-colonization and an American Riviera in the Gaza Strip (with all-you-can-eat ice cream). 

They prefer that we all suffer just so there is no appearance of the other side making some gain"

Yonatan Zeigen, whose mother, peace activist Vivian Silver, was murdered by Hamas on October 7, 2023

The "liberal democracy" at work -

"At least 160 healthcare workers from Gaza, including more than 20 doctors, are believed to still be inside Israeli detention facilities as the World Health Organisation expressed deep concern about their wellbeing and safety."

The Guardian and the Arab Reporters for Investigative Journalism (ARIJ) have also heard detailed testimony from seven senior doctors who claimed they were taken from hospitals, ambulances and checkpoints in Gaza, illegally transferred across the border into Israeli-run prison facilities and subjected to months of torture, beatings, starvation and inhumane treatment before being released without charge.

“Frankly, no matter how much I talk about what I experienced in detention, it is only a fraction of what truly happened,” said Dr Mohammed Abu Selmia, director of al-Shifa hospital, who was detained for seven months in Israeli prisons before being released without charge.

“I am talking about clubbing, being beaten with rifle butts and being attacked by dogs. There was little to no food, no personal hygiene, no soap inside the cells, no water, no toilet, no toilet paper … I saw people who were dying there … I was beaten so badly I couldn’t use my legs or walk. No day passes without torture.”

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/feb/25/more-than-160-gazan-medics-held-in-israeli-prisons-amid-reports-of-torture?CMP=share_btn_url&fbclid=IwY2xjawIrHehleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHaBJbNtvg9nLEpKTe2mWZbQBo4kTl3rmejfcTdhAm28DVfyvZXMxqGmGLw_aem_t31cM4Ai_UW02uJ5J2WMNg

But weren’t people on here telling us that everyone was fit and disgustingly healthy in Gaza ? No starvation or anything like that, no siree, and plenty of aid getting in !

Hamas guys are in great shape.

How do you explain that one?

Could it be the noble freedom fighters were stealing the aid that was coming in and letting their own people go hungry.

It is not propaganda to acknowledge that the Israeli leadership has been charge with the war crime of starvation by the ICC. I think they did a more in depth assessment then looking at photos on the internet.

It could. But it could also be that they had pre4pared well for what they expected and had food and equipment stored away well in advance. Weren't we also told that they trained for Oct 7th in full view of Israeli outposts and towers.

And that's your answer to 6 newborn babies dying of cold?

Gosh…

Hamas made a serious mistake with the parading of hostages being released. I can only speak for myself but I have less sympathy after those spectacles than before for the Palestinians.

How could they have thought that could possibly help their cause?

Then again the same group made the catastrophic mistake on Oct 7th 2023 so can't be surprised.