Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

If you colonise land, resistance is inevitable. I think some people are under the impression that there was peace before October 7th but settlements will always cause conflict. I can't see any peace in our time with 10% of israelis living in illegal settlements .

I dont think we can compare our situation with the palestinians though as the majority of ireland was returned to the Irish. This can not happen with the Palestinians. The israelis are continuing to settle occupied territory so I can't see any situation where it would be possible now to dismantle them.

It seems the israelis want a Trumpian Ukrainian type peace where the dominant warring factions gets to keep the land they acquired in war.

Agreed of Course. Just wondering after it though, do you believe that peace going forward will have any chance if Israel hold on to what they've taken so far. Like do you think the line should be drawn around where Israel stands now or before they resettled their citizens in Gaza?

They broke it no more than Hamas did in not releasing all the bodies when scheduled and then lying about the reasons

As for reparations, I agree , Hamas should compensate the families of those they killed on October 7 and the families of the dead and murdered hostages.

I can't account for you not seeing the sarcasm in my earlier response.

See picture below from : https://x.com/KNEECAPCEOL/status/1893675759635509272/photo/1

So we have Kneecap apparent Irish patriots who criticize everyone else for not being quite as patriotic as they claim to be endorsing Hezbollah an organisation responsible for the death of an Irish soldier just a couple of years ago.Hardly very patriotic is it?

Also Daniel Lambert head of the wokest football club in the world is also their manager, bizzare that someone like him would be in favour of them promoting an organisation that has killed an Irish soldier in the recent past.Hardly very kind and caring as the wokesters claim to be to be promoting such an organisation.

A neighbor of ours wanted to bring my young lad to Bohemians to play for one of their underage teams. I took one look at their social media and politely told him he’d be staying put at his local club. A strange bunch, to put it very mildly.

These lads and loads like them have no cop on. They decide something isn't right so it doesn't matter who's against that, the back the other side regardless of how ruthless they are.

SF here for instance, not going to washington for st patricks day because of Trumps noises about Gaza and resettling it's citizens. Yet you have him siding with Russia against Ukraine, and not a mention of that in their reasoning for not going. Fair play to them if that's their belief imo, but not to mention the other is making me wonder why?

I'm not a fan of SF but they have a legitimate reason for not going so I can't see any problem with that. I guess it will piss off israeli supporters but they don't seem to have any political party here to support anyway.

Nor I in fairness, but he's waded in on two wars and has backed the invader in both. I just wondered why they picked the Isreali one to stand on is all as against mentioning both?

Seems the hostage families are further directing their ire at Netanyahu and his Govt.

• Gilad Korngold, whose son Tal Shoham was released from Hamas captivity on Saturday after 505 days, said he "hopes no one is planning something crazy like going back into Gaza when the hostages are still there," and urged the government to "let go of any thoughts that you'll order to renew the war. We won't let anyone go back to war before the hostages are back."
  
• Danny Elgarat, whose brother Itzhak died in Hamas captivity, criticized what he called the government's "objectification" of the hostages, saying that "when hostages are treated as objects, time doesn't matter for them. But time is their oxygen. My brother didn't die in an airstrike, he starved to death. They could have gotten him out in November…He was on that list. They gave up on the adults and went to war instead."

Were they even invited though?

Just seemed like more pathetic grandstanding by them.

Also considering they were only recently eulogizing a man who was involved in the murder of 5 people I think it's difficult to listen to them got on their high horses about anything and not feel a degree of contempt for them.

I don't think anyone has been invited yet. But any position can be dismissed at grandstanding by the opponents of that position.

I would guess the majority of those of us that dont vote for SF are for reasons nothing to do with Israel/Palestine, so they dont really gain anything by this action.

And again misraile have proved their agenda as the burning empty buses has lead to an invasion of the west Bank, according to misraille its only for a year ,fnuk off .

Proposing ethnic cleansing of millions of people = "noises about Gaza"