Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

There's no domestic support in Europe to project onto the world like the USA does with it's Gaza genocide plan or Greenland annexation.

Like Brexit the USA under Trump is imposing trade sanctions on itself. The rest of the world can fill the void.

That's all true. Zelensky can continue the war to its conclusion, with or without US assistance. But then why is Zelensky (and the Europeans) so angry about not getting invited to US-Russia negotiations? Apparently Zelensky went to the UAE on Tuesday and tried to bully the Saudis into inviting him to gatecrash the US-Russian talks, which was denied.

It does seem the US-Russian talks are much bigger than just Ukraine. It appears to be about trying to restore normal ties between the two countries on a host of topics, not just Ukraine. That means US-Russia can make a deal on a number of topics, and agree to disagree on Ukraine.

I would think the dream scenario for the Russians is to secure normalisation of contacts with the US, while at the same time the Ukrainians sabotage any peace effort by the US. Trump throws up his hands and walks away from Ukraine, blaming the Ukrainians. Russia can then find an agreement with Ukraine on its own terms later which will be much worse than anything Ukraine might get now, with US backing.

Zelensky is extremely poorly advised to alienate Trump in the way that he is doing. He is playing completely into the hands of the Russians.

Lets call trump what he is: A Cúntator. A delusional Orange reject that thinks hes the center of the universe but in reality is a useful disposable idiot not fit for power. if he manages to get shot at again it's because he provoked it with his malignant Vatnik BS. That we were only like 10 inches from avoiding this entire **** timeline last year is in a way so frustrating.

EU/European states should hold “peace talks” with Ukraine in Greenland. If anything it would at least piss Trump off.
Trump has crossed a red line now and all of Europe needs to respond with actions not words.

Trump really has let his true colours show and it is obvious now why putin was throwing everything he had at the offensive in Ukraine as he believes he now has a big dog to help him out:

The pope is a scumbag and he leads one of the most evil institutions on this planet. All their assets should be siezed just like Russia.

Lads apologies but I keep typing Putin instead of trump. Visually I always picture one with the other. A few slips get through but I usually correct the mistakes before I post.

That is the greatest problem, a nations international standing being dependent on the whims of an egotistical self entitled bore.

This term is easier to handle because he's outed himself entirely as Putin's bitch.

The US can agree with anything with Russia but it is ONLY with Russia. It can even agree to buy 100 tons of tooth picks a year from Russia . So what. Any such agreement - even how the war might end - is ABSOLUTLY USELESS as UKr/EU was not involved.
IMO , because Trump is on his ‘transactional only’ strategy - as he is all the time- has decided that his only objective is to do an economic deal with Ru , rekindle/ cement a working relationship in Russia and seek opportunities for investment. THEN when that is done there is the ‘minor matter ‘ of this little iritiant of this war ‘started’ by Ukr.

So, in summary, the US/RU meeting is dealing with two distinct , independant and VERY separate issues. Need I say no more when we see the comments from Trump about VZ, etc, before he meets the guy as an , hopefully, ‘equal partner’ in solving the war problem . And not a zilch re Putin apart from that ‘he is a very nice’ fellow or words/gesticulations to that effect

How does Lavrov square his stance when Trump has asked the EU countries for what they can contribute to the solution including peacekeepers, someone correct me if I am wrong

Trump bight become the first US/Russian oligarch. Up to now there are onlyRussian or US oligarchs!!!!

I’d reckon trump is after something like the molotov ,ribbentrof pact of 1939. And carve up Ukraine between them.

Is there a scenario here where the CIA step in and have him offed? Surely it's completely unacceptable to have a confirmed Russian asset as the US president running around upending a world order they spent 80yrs cultivating. Whilst trying to neuter the agency in the background. Maybe Airforce one has an in-flight malfunction with his "best and brightest" on board.

They can blame a DEI hire.

The Russians probably can’t believe their luck over the past 2 days.

How Trump has the balls to call Zelensky illegitimate but yet is about to sit down for talks with a president that has been in office for over 20 years?
**** mad this all is.

I’m waiting for the sanctions to be lifted by the Americans, it won’t matter for **** what Europe does then. It’ll be a free for all

Since 2020, the world has gone batshit crazy.

This would be a good time for Denmark to tell Trump, we'll sell you Greenland when the Russians are back in russia

Not quite correct that it was Zelensky who first offered mineral rights. It was Trump who brought up the idea of obtaining minerals on Monday, February 3rd and then Zelensky said he was very open to the idea of exchanging some mineral rights for military aid four days later.

But Trump has now come in this week mafia / gangster style and seemingly demanded $500bn of Ukraine's resources.