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Lets call trump what he is: A Cúntator. A delusional Orange reject that thinks hes the center of the universe but in reality is a useful disposable idiot not fit for power. if he manages to get shot at again it's because he provoked it with his malignant Vatnik BS. That we were only like 10 inches from avoiding this entire **** timeline last year is in a way so frustrating.
Honest question, I thought you're a poster that would be happy with what Trump is saying and doing on the issue, and the seeming back stab of Ukraine that is fast shaping up between US and Russia? Are you getting a bit scared by it all now, or something?
That's all true. Zelensky can continue the war to its conclusion, with or without US assistance. But then why is Zelensky (and the Europeans) so angry about not getting invited to US-Russia negotiations? Apparently Zelensky went to the UAE on Tuesday and tried to bully the Saudis into inviting him to gatecrash the US-Russian talks, which was denied.
It does seem the US-Russian talks are much bigger than just Ukraine. It appears to be about trying to restore normal ties between the two countries on a host of topics, not just Ukraine. That means US-Russia can make a deal on a number of topics, and agree to disagree on Ukraine.
I would think the dream scenario for the Russians is to secure normalisation of contacts with the US, while at the same time the Ukrainians sabotage any peace effort by the US. Trump throws up his hands and walks away from Ukraine, blaming the Ukrainians. Russia can then find an agreement with Ukraine on its own terms later which will be much worse than anything Ukraine might get now, with US backing.
Zelensky is extremely poorly advised to alienate Trump in the way that he is doing. He is playing completely into the hands of the Russians.
Vince McMahon doesn't seem too far fetched.
There's no domestic support in Europe to project onto the world like the USA does with it's Gaza genocide plan or Greenland annexation.
Like Brexit the USA under Trump is imposing trade sanctions on itself. The rest of the world can fill the void.
the viet cong must be counting their blessings everyday that trump didn’t go, and his bone spurs flared up. They would have been defeated in 3 days. And he’d have got the MOH.
I never said he was a murderer. Somebody who replied to my post said that.
Whatever hope Trump and Putin had of ending the war on the US and Russia's terms (as per the phone call and talks in Saudi Arabia) have surely gone right out the window. Trump has exposed himself as a pro-Russian asset and someone who hates Ukraine and Zelensky.
POsters on here the last few days with countless suggestions on what Europe could do to support Ukraine and punish the States for their recent actions. Also, posters optimistic that Macron in conjunction with other European leaders would devise a plan. After two 'crucial' meetings the result is that Macron and Starmer will both travel to Washington next week to meet Donald Trump. A reminder, if we needed another one, just how such a modest role Europe currently plays.
Trump did so by giving into the land annexation and forbid NATO membership (confirmed by Hegseth's big mouth), and beyond that since
I would hope no government of ours would sit down for talks aimed at accommodating the conerns of an aggressor who perpetrated that on this country
What the USA are doing now is a 1938 Munich Conference style meeting, except Trump is in awe of Putin and doing this from a place of idolisation rather. My assumption now, based on his typical 'truth' post earlier today and his statemetn Ukraine started the war, is that if Ukraine reject the imposed 'peace agreement' that the Trump administration will use that as some sort of casus belli and start arming the Russians.
I wonder what our US based posters make of the Ukrainian hustle? We haven't heard from them for a while.
Does it look as bad through a US lens or maybe Americans think, "fair play to Trump, he's getting the Europeans to pay for their war/defense".
Perhaps with all the Musk firings it doesn't even make the news over there?
Trump seemed very angry when he made those recent comments. He was really boiling. I think he senses that there's a few billion people outraged with him and his antics and he doesn't like it. His 24 hour wrap up is turning into a nightmare.
might is right here. Trump can ‘entitle’ himself to whatever he wants
Trump is not the president of Ukraine.
He can open all the negotiations he wants but it means nothing at the end of the day.
Am I wrong to have the view that we here in the EU are way more entitled to any plunder from the Ukraine war than the Yanks. Is that a **** take to have?
Maybe plunder is the wrong word. I’ll put it another way. Our ( the EU) entitlement to have Ukraine in our sphere of influence and our Free trade area and be a peaceful profitable EU member usurps any American entitlement to reparations from the Ukraine war. Americans didn’t have to take in huge numbers of Ukrainian refugees. They didn’t have to shut down hotels etc. We were way more impacted by the Ukraine war and our social welfare budget ballooned also. Did the average New Yorker or Kentuckian or Texan have any such impact on their lives since 2022? Are we the suckers ? The weapons donations by the US while absolutely crucial did not impact the average American to anything like the same degree. And now Trump wants to go in there and take his pound of flesh from Ukraine. **** that.
The church always loved dictators and scumbag kings. Nothing new there.
The Pope got absolutely hammered by Zelensky & Co. when he dared say Ukraine should be brave enough to seek peace. For all the complaining Zelensky does about not being invited to US-Russian negotiations, he did have at least three years to open negotiations and repeatedly rejected any advice to do so. People might not want to hear it, but Trump is only in office for a little over three weeks and has opened negotiations. Zelensky has been in office for six years.
The pope has a bit of a grâ for the auld Ruskies too.
I don’t suppose there’d be anything to be said about saying another mass? 😀
Hopefully sick and all that he is right now, the Pope is praying for “divine intervention”- it would be sweet justice I dare say
You say 4 years but you never know whw comes in after Trump in 4 years. This literally could be America for the next 40 years. All mad presidents getting into power moving America closer to dictatorship. I nearly wouldn't be surprised if America, Russia and China devide up parts of the world. America looking for Panama canal, Greenland and Canada, Russia with Ukraine and a few countries around there, China with Taiwan. Honestly it's getting messed up as we say Trump is mad but the mold in America has been broken, literally worse people could become president and that could be after Trump and so on for like I say a few decades. People are thinking 4 years of Trump and he is gone but there might be more like him or worse in charge.
Let’s not get worked up by this POS- @Europe keep calm and carry on - obviously Trump and Putin made a deal on Ukraine and Trump can’t keep his mouth shut so he’s putting down Ukraine to justify his future rape and theft of Ukraines natural resources and also to try and show how “good” his supposed “deal” really is.
People who lie all the time get defensive all the time - that’s all Trump is doing- he reminds me of Georgie Porgie - wait till the “boys” come out to play Trump !
Good people die young. Evil bastards like Trump, Putin, Murdoch, Mugabe etc. Live healthy long lives. It's a fcuked up world.
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I second that.
The whole European reaction to the Munich conference last week has been highly emotional. From the head of the Munich conference crying at the closing ceremony to the European leaders "throwing a temper tantrum" in the words of Fred Fleitz, who worked with Kellogg on the supposed peace plan last year. There has been a lot of chest beating about Europe going it alone, without the US.
So while serious people interested in negotiating peace met in Saudi Arabia the various Europeans interested in continuing war met in France for a big summit. And delivered embarrassingly little. France and the UK talked about sending a few thousand troops to Ukraine, everyone else ruled it out.
The whole idea of sending troops is ridiculous and only serves to show how weak the European militaries are. The UK is the premier military in western Europe. But it is in a shockingly poor state. Lord Dannatt, former head of the British Army, recently told the BBC that the British army couldn't lead any peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.
Our military is so run down at the present moment, numerically and as far as capability and equipment is concerned, it would potentially be quite embarrassing
Peacekeeping is not warfighting, but Lord Dannatt doesn't believe the British army can even carry out that mission.
Jack Watling is a British military analyst for RUSI and he has written an article in the Telegraph this week about the UK's premier warfighting division, the 3rd Division which is constituted for fighting conventional wars. It has all the tanks, all the armoured vehicles, all the heavy artillery. Despite that Watling's view is the 3rd Division is ill-equipped to actually fight the Russian army. He makes the comparison to the Ukrainian 2023 offensive by three Ukrainian brigades towards Tokmak which was defeated by the Russians, and says the 3rd Division actually has less equipment than the Ukrainians did. Apparently they have just 14 artillery pieces, no infantry fighting vehicles (hard to believe tbh), no spares for its tanks (about 40 operational) and no logistics or engineering equipment to support them. Further, it has less available ammunition for its MLRS systems than the Ukrainians did. Watling further makes the point that only two brigades in the 3rd division actually has tanks. The third is an experimental recce/strike brigade of dubious value. On top of that the 3rd Division lacks for drones, electronic warfare equipment, air defences and personnel trained to use them.
The 3rd Division is the dedicated warfighting division of western Europe's premier military, and yet it is no way prepared or equipped for deployment to Ukraine. The story in the rest of Europe's militaries is as bad, or worse. For the past 80 years, the Europeans have always assumed their militaries would act as auxiliaries to US formations and would never act independently so they never built the capacity to do so. They're not able to go it alone, and as in Paris this week they'll just embarrass themselves trying.
The full thing
https://x.com/TruthTrumpPosts/status/1892240768880062677
oh how droll x is blocked 🙄
Belarus is a vassal state to Putin, it's practically low hanging fruit. Moldova is certainly vulnerable, even their leadership acknowledges this.
5 years ago a full-scale invasion of a European country by Russia was unthinkable
3 years ago all of Europe/US was united
Today we have multiple pro-Putin European leaders, the far right growing in Germany, a US president calling Zelensky a "dictator"
Just because today we think NATO is a certainty, doesn't automatically make it so in the future. We could have a different political landscape in 5 years.
Of course if we react strongly, then yes it can make these things much more of a remote possibility.
They wouldn't be a nutter. They'd be possibly the sanest person in the room. Pretty much everyone should be keen to see him gone.
A leak from my computer would show I have designs in fuking Riley Reid but that doesn't mean it's gonna ever happen.
Enough trumpslation. We lived through this during his first term where people would jump in with what he may have meant. As so many trumplodytes here say, 'he tells it like it is.' It's exactly what he said, when he said it. Now, 30 seconds later something else will percolate up through the adderall-seasoned fungus that remains of his mind, but this is what he said and we must assume he meant it. Plus, he never jokes. Doesn't even have a dog, only vaguely human emotion he has is bullying. Likes a bit of the old rape, too.
