Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Simple, ridiculous hyperbole should be met with ridiculous hyperbole in response to show how ridiculous the notions being spouted are.

Do you ever come in Dublin city yourself? Or are you also afraid of being mobbed by Ukrainian refugees and their rabid pets? (or do they eat their pets? I can't remember which)

Mod Edit: Warned for trolling

No. By all means discuss and hold people accountable . But it has to be with recognition that it happened .

The posts I was replying to were acting as if these mistakes were still ongoing . There are issues with how the system is working we all agree and it is important to highlight and discuss.

But lessons were learned and certain aspects of absence protocol with respect to Ukrainians changed as a result and that is important to say and recognize.

A discussion that continues ad infinitum about" they did this ,they did that " is not going anywhere .

"Let’s not forget that McEntee walked with a posse of Gardai just to show how safe it was."

Indeed. That was while a very particular riot was ongoing so bringing that up as a regular occurrence is more than a bit disingenuous.

Many people who live and work here do not agree that the city is any different to how it has been in the last 20 years and some areas have in fact improved.

I would know as have worked shifts in the city all my working life .

Inner City is very littered .

Don't know any no go areas but there would be places I would go with caution and not at night alone but that is just cop on in any city / town.

I do note that there are many more non Irish in the city centre but for me travelling in and out to North burbs by public transport it's the young feral Irish lads/ addicts that cause a little more worry as has been the case for many years and am sure it's the same in other towns and cities in Ireland .

Yes we need more Gardaí visible on the streets generally as a deterrent and our new MoJ has said he will ensure that ..remains to be seen .

There is a thread on this already however .

Don't think it's immigration related .

Anyone that was involved in stopping that monster deserves a lot of praise.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/feb/18/europes-population-crisis-see-how-your-country-compares-visualised

Love this.. shared by another poster earlier talking about the conspiracy of trying to keep Europe's population at a steady younger level where without immigration we would see a declining older population over the next century.

I don't think they could have read the article at all because on the contrary it outlines all the positives of immigration , younger population, working age spreading tax burden , as well as so many supplying skills we need to not only keep our economy ticking over but also our services esp health .

And before I get a chorus of "but they aren't paying our pensions " , it's worth way more than that .

People here concentrate on poorer, less educated asylum seekers but not the influx of educated qualified people whose home countries are so crowded they want to live and work here and rear their families . Yes we have our housing and services issues but so do many 1st world countries that people migrate to .

Note the graph that shows that Ireland has the second highest rate of foreign born doctors in our health system in Europe . Over 40%.

Our health services would be non existent without these people . And that's without mentioning all the nurses from abroad !

It is up to our government as it has been for the last 10 years to increase and secure housing supply , and this is their fault that they haven't been doing this , but saying we don't need immigrants to help keep our country going is head in the sand stuff.