Is Elon Musk hurting Tesla? (Mod Note Post #1)

It's early days yet, but if the sales figures recorded so far continue into the year, the share price will inevitably fall. Even if just because dividends could be hurt. As I've said before, his income is directly related to Tesla shares and the share price - the current attempt to increase his shareholding is testament to this.

Loss of tax revenue to the Chinese government arguably affects the Chinese people much more than the government and the current dictator in chief. Those individuals are completely insulated from any economic difficulties the country may suffer. It's not as though they're likely to be voted out on foot of it.

Many thanks, I appreciate being called silly, as I am sure everyone does 😁😂

I am just doing due diligence in understanding what is out there to compete - Model Y Juniper may still be the best option, and if so, it will be the option that I go with.

Yes, I was waiting to see how long before Hitler was mentioned, thanks.

Its already taking place. The sales figures speak for themselves.

It would make sense to argue it has had no impact if it was 1 or 2 countries. But it's not.

They'll say wait till next quarter... we've heard that for 3 straight quarters.

The fundamentals are all of there. The well is poisoned. You simply do not get to vilify , deride and ignore your target customer and maintain a healthy sales return. They churn out and go to alternates of which there are now many.

But you'll always have people who ignore reality no matter what the figures say.

Presuming like the boycott of south African goods by a small number of dunnes workers, is has wider ranging impact of sales of said products.

I think the end game is fairly clear. Oust him from any positions of power. That's including CEO of companies.

Fairly cut and dry. If the cars become unsellable as in people attach them consciously or subconsciously to 'bad' then it will and does have an impact.

And last I checked, Hitler no longer as an interest or say in how VW is run.

OP, I applaud your stance - if everyone had some morals, individuals with none like that guy would have to think twice about their actions.

Exactly, I was planning on upgrading to the refresh model or if not, potentially what would come next. Nothing to do with brand loyalty though, I just think for the money, they're are the best EV's out there.

It's all rather unfortunate, especially for existing customers who should not be vilified, it's just a car and if you dig, you'll find that most brands are problematic in some way, it's just that Musk is all over the media.

Fair play OP, I wouldn't go near a Tesla now. Musk is a horrible person and a danger to god knows how many.

Some tesla fans are of the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" mindset.

Yes, I do have access to the Internet and occasionally even watch the news. Appreciate the advice.

The big jump is from when Trump won the election and Musk's clear involvement there. The interesting thing is the fall since then.

Im surprised they havent made a movie about Carlos Ghosn's great escape - some craic even if he was a shyster.

It will always be a matter of eternal confusion to me why Elon ,with the Roman salute ,drew so much ire and yet going hand in hand with alleged war criminal Bibi into the US Congress didn't.

As a former tee shirt wearing ,Cybertruck deposit holder, I will never own a Tesla and will always be cautious of owners of recently bought Tesla's.

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Can you elaborate on "will always be cautious of owners of recently bought Tesla's"?