Toyota bz4X

I do note that from recent data sales of the bz4x are quite significant across quite a few countries. Having read variously about it, it does seem to be a reasonable EV. The best thing going for it is I think the "halo" effect with Toyota Having a strong reputation for good build quality and in particular car longevity. One of the major questions potential customers have on EVS is how long will this car last? - not a problem for Toyota perhaps given the proven reliability and long-term warranties through annual servicing. The Honda Prelude is selling well in the USA for similar reasons even though it's a rebadged Chevy. I think if Toyota put a bigger battery on the bz4x- say + 15kWh, gussied up the inside a bit more and dropped the price a bit - it could sell a lot more ........... particularly to more Conservative customers who like Toyota.

They still only have 1 EV offering in Europe, despite promising 10 BEV models by 2026

If they were any way serious about being a player in the EV space, they'd have more models out by now..

Surely an Electric Corolla/Avensis/saloon would sell like hotcakes… but where is it?

So assuming deliveries start in 2025, thats 2, and they promised another 8 by 2025 (their website below still says this today)

In Europe, our BEV line-up will expand to ten models by 2025.

https://www.toyota-europe.com/electrification/bev

There could be secret regulations in place that Toyota is allowed to hold only 20 percent of the market

If demand grows Toyota will be asked to increase the price or not allowed to come up with new models.

Sorry, but do you not realise how absolutely batsh1t mental that all sounds?

How come the Chinese aren't having the same problems?

Conspiracy Forums are ——→ that way!!

I think you need new tyres Vimal 😅

EV sales in Norway- January

Grandons in Cork have 3 x 2025’s for €37,995 straight sale, but when i called the silver one had already been sold. Two in white remain.

Also, dealer mentioned a mild refresh was coming in March/April, minor changes tbc, and no change in battery size.

The bz4x is selling well in Europe- in top 6 spot for brand/model for January. I wonder will this get Toyota HQ to sit up and notice and maybe focus some of their vast resources into developing and launching a number of number of genuinely good EVs- up to now it seems that Top management have shown a lack interest/motivation/focus (take your pick) in EV adoption.

Things moved fast in ev-world. Look at quality changes in new byd atto2. Or battery sizes in Kia and Skoda.

Bz needs cabin improvement ( maybe some colour?), and definitely the option of a 80kwh or bigger battery.

The tech is good. And it's comfortable, far better than Tesla . But not competitive at listing price. Tbh 38k is where it should be, maybe 41 with 0% finance.

Everything sells. Doesn't mean they are the best of their peers. I have a bz. Like I said, it's comfortable and reliable. The led headlights are great, the cruise and lane keep is really good, as is safety package. But it's overpriced in current market, and really short on interior tech and lux for its price.

I never said it's a bad car, just that it needs to improve, quickly. And it looks like Toyota isn't seeing that. The Chinese brands are making small and large changes to models in a 18 month timeframe. Software updates, colours, even all-new models. Even VW managed to receive feedback and update i.d. range only 3 years after launch.

Look at new urban cruiser. EV, Collab with Suzuki. Much nicer design interior than BZ. Why can't they roll out an update?

One guy told me that his friend had a tesla and had to replace battery for 20,000 euros. Probably after warranty period of 160,000km. he said that service is very bad. Probably everything is online and has to wait for ages for the maintenance. Also he said that tesla features are unreliable. One by one things will break including auto pilot.

When I check Internet, there is not an even single negative review on tesla, under youtube. Under videos, there is not even a single negative comment. Is it that some people working over Internet deliberately removing the comments and videos.

But all the videos on bz4x are negative. But it is now the biggest selling EV in Norway.

He has a history of unsupported allegations of some sort of conspiracy against the BZ4X. He questioned the sales figures here for the Tucson based on nothing other than not seeing enough of them on the road.

The reason I keep following this thread ☺️☺️

bz numbers have always been low enough here:

2022: 120

2023: 650

2024: 400

2025: 115

January is off to a good start, but price drops didn’t help any of the big volume sellers here (VW, Tesla etc), they all still fell in 2024 v 2023