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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Was at the ladies game in Swinford yesterday, very disappointing result to lose at home against a promoted team who'd only scored 7 points in their previous 2 games. We have a good few new faces but it's hard not to see us going down after that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭naughto


    is the manager an issue with so many leaving the squad I believe there was a lot of push back on his appointment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Island Voter


    "Had to do something" - yes, wait.

    There is a way to deal with blanket defence tactics without changing the rules of the game. It was coming. Its pretty simple too. You kick the ball direct before the blanket can form. You'd require players that kick the ball however so would require a sea change. And what happens when you are a blanket defence team and you are playing against a good team that kicks before your blanket can form? You adapt, quickly, and suddenly both teams are fronting up in the middle third and we have a game again.

    Changing the rules of a field sport to counter a tactical trend when there is a means of beating that tactical trend is a flawed concept from the outset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Island Voter


    You absolutely arent but you will see soon enough.

    Armagh Tyrone and Mayo Galway showed that there will be far fewer close games than blowouts with the 2 point line. A wind change at half time could mean one team has had access to 2 pointers and the other has not. Mayo were 12 points down in the second half in a game that was not a 12 point game. Tyrone went from 4 points down early on v Armagh to being absolutely hammered by half time.

    The better of two teams in a contest will have better kickers. They will pull away earlier.

    I expect Galway to win the All Ireland this year based on 2 point kicking alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Island Voter


    When Inter Milan and Helenio Herrera introduced catenaccio in the 60s and won a bunch of European Cups, the solution wasnt to change the rules of the game to ban mass defence or to introduce a rule where long range shots counted for 2 goals. No, it was allowed evolve and develop and then total football under the Dutch appeared in the 1970s and obliterated it. And then teams evolved against total football and became more direct in the late 70s and 80s. The game evolved. Imagine if football authorities in the 1960s decided catenaccio was here to stay and butchered the game? It would have been a disaster.

    Gaelic football's current defensive tactics would have evolved. Colm O'Rourke had the idea but not the players when he took over Meath a few years ago. The blanket does not form instantly. There is time to kick over it. An obvious means of destroying that tactic. However, teams are still locked in the "cant shoot unless in the 80% scoring zone" which slows attacks down and we see the stasis that results as the blanket is in place. Who introduced the 80% scoring zone?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I understand what you are saying about evolution but soccer is a purer game with better defined rules than gaelic football. Also full time professionals have more time to develop higher skill levels to overcome defensive systems. As far as I can see defensive systems were only getting stronger rather than attacking teams overcoming it. With high fitness levels nowadays and statisticians playing a big role it's difficult to see where space would develop. I don't think players have the distance in their kicking to beat the blanket. Even teams like kerry with plenty of kickpassers have not overcome it. There was no sign of an innovation to evolve from that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 howdo1992


    soccer did change the rules though and banned the back pass. This completely changed the game and how it was played. If there was still the option for a back pass the high pressure gegenprese style of play or tiki taka would have likely never happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,140 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    15 mins gone...Mayo with around 80% possession and one point 🫤🫤



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    David Neary and Paul Touhy playing for us according to TG4.

    Harsh black for Reid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭hugeorange


    Enda Hession just standing in the middle of the pitch bouncing the ball up and down just about sums up the attitude and approach.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,332 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    It's awful muck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    We're in for a short summer on the evidence of this. Standing soloing the ball on the halfway line, calling some play that never comes, horrible stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    need to sub Towey out, he’s made several mistakes and loses possession too easily. ROD in his place for the second half I hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    That's a hard watch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,463 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I have no idea what our attacking game plan is
    We are working the ball sideways around the arc
    But then don’t shoot

    As for our “set piece” signals
    It appears to be a signal to handpass even more and then lose the ball

    I’ve never been more disillusioned than I am right now
    Even in Longford

    We need to get back to playing football
    That was mctstays selling point

    Every bit of football has been coached out of us
    And in some cases it was never and never will be there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭SeanJ09


    Tough watch against a disinterested Tyrone team. Not sure what the team have been working on in the 2 weeks since the Galway game. 35 mins here to save whatever chance we have of remaining in division 1 for 2026. My guess is both of these teams could go down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Was going to say the exact same thing. Failed to win the ball when he was favourite to do so far too often.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,140 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    Bringing Reape up to pitch to stand around sending useless 3 yard hand passes is a colossal waste of time and energy...

    At least have him in the pocket for a shot at a 2 pointer ffs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Sideline looking on clueless at another 3 man back infraction. They might get the hang of it soon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    I don’t rate him as highly as many others do, I have a feeling there’s a bit of the Richie Feeney syndrome with him, the more he doesn’t play the better he gets in the eyes of some. Boland has just been brought in for him now thank god.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Boland doesn't have the scoring boots on today. He didn't have them on vs Galway either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Plenty of people were crying out for Towey to start games but he hasn't the physicality or stamina for this level.

    Coached out at underage level. Too late to address it at senior level. Same for long distance kicking and creative forward play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,463 ✭✭✭✭km79


    brutal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭HBC08


    He came off the bench and took on shots.He scored two,we won by two.

    ROD,Aido and Boland off the bench (along with Jordan and Irwin) won the game for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Irwin is the shinning light and showing a bit of class from that sh1t show. No leaders and playing with absolute lack of confidence and fear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭hugeorange


    Was a case of two brutal teams and we managed to be slightly less brutal on the day. Ultimately we are going absolutely nowhere. Compare that game to the standard of scores in the games yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭spakman


    Depressing and shocking how poor we have become. Hard to look forward to the rest of this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Armagh v Tyrone is a different beast. Much more attacking intent, engaged crowd and the Armagh No. 11 showed mayo forwards how to finish a goal chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,755 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    The difference in attacking intent in this game is stark. Even the bit of lateral passing is done at serious pace and constantly looking to punch a hole.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,463 ✭✭✭✭km79


    it is genuinely like we are playing under the old rules

    Even tap and go not being used properly

    Inexplicable



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