Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

you're right, it's highly unlikely they will get into government. But the parties that do form one, will adopt some form of their policies to appeal to the middle ground voters and show they cam be proactive.

German politicians, like our own, aren't afraid of the far right, they're afraid of loosing power.

The ripple effect will be asylum seekers leaving Germany, looking for countries with lax rules and guess who fits that bill?

I would argue it’s not. but I guess we would going around in circles. This version of Ireland is an absolute shithole.

Ridiculous talk. You could walk into a job with any half relevant degree and you wouldn't be thinking about emigrating. Plenty of work available back then, maybe not for a BA in diversity planning and equality..

Mid nineties was the turn around for emigration. I started work after college in 96 and although not quite having the pick of places, there were plenty of options. First job for a graduate was always hard to get. Previous to that, the 80's and all the way to mid 90's, you had to emigrate as there was very little employment that paid anything other than pittance and the employer was very happy to tell you that you were lucky to get anything. I have friends, work colleagues and relatives to tell me that. Neighbours families left for Canada. I'm sure someone will request a link and a personal message from that family as proof as per boards nonsense. You entered college at a very good time and would have exited at a perfect moment in your career beginnings with regard to opportunities. You are misremembering the mid 90's and the stats tell of story of those older than you.

It was 12% but the economy was growing rapidly and unemployment was falling rapidly. I lot of this 12% would have been long term unemployed from the stagnation of previous years. Within three years, unemployment had halved to 6%. It was very easy to get a job if you wanted one.

I have yet to meet any of these so called “non open border globalists” who will put a number on how many we should take, when we should put a halt to immigration altogether or what countries we should restrict immigration from.. so these things are all relative I guess.

it's really a topic for another thread, but I agree. Our lot have squandered vast amounts of wealth and not invested wisely in the futures of Irish people. Yes we have some good things such as improved roads. But there is a gapping hole in public transport investment.

Bringing it back to immigration, we've changed the fabric of communities, increased the number of dormitory towns, hollowed out town centres.

Yes we have fdi and a diverse population but at what cost to society. We got stick for saying Ireland is full, the fact is, it is. Our politicians have wasted money and we can't cope with the rising population.

The justice minister stated on the radio this morning that over 80% of asylum claims this year so far are bogus. That's incredible and something needs to happen.

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Farming and fishing are examples of indigenous industries.

Companies have in the past pulled out of Ireland. Their loyalty is not to Ireland.

I think we can all agree that while we have made some great progress we are also worse in some areas. It shouldn't be harder to get into schools, access a doctor and so on then it was in the 80s. And that’s not the faults of asylum seekers. It’s that we are increasing the population exponentially while infrastructure and services aren’t increasing

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/too-many-people-coming-to-ireland-seeking-international-protection-says-justice-minister-on-plans-to-reform-asylum-system/a349133433.html

Strong words coming from the Minister of Justice here.

“Too many people are coming to Ireland seeking international protection, who are not entitled to international protection”

Some of the resident experts here should inform him absolutely anyone can claim international protection ??

Mr O’Callaghan added that if an applicant is refused international protection “then you leave, you are gone”

Hopefully things are starting to turn a corner on this issue in Ireland, but I won’t hold my breath.

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Surely Minister for Justice is guilty of far right dog whistling ,Methinks Roderic will be carrying the can on the whole mess .

ironically when stating this for a decade or more you’d be branded a racist That said I applaud him being candid - more than can be said for his predecessors

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