Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Well if you had read my original post properly the point I was making was they have nothing to say about the enormous amount of money spent on this.

Isn't opposition supposed to call out the government on all areas of spending instead of remaining silent when it's on something they are uncomfortable talking about

It's all deflection, look over here, not where we should be looking. Always the same playbook. Was the same during the election, bike shed and Harris' mask slipping in centra, media made big issues out of them rather than focus on serious issues like housing, health, cost of living and immigration.

Europe gone to the dogs. Knife crime everywhere now. Ireland is goosed. My only wish is for monumental tariffs effecting the FDI in Ireland. If we have to lose hundreds of thousands of FDI jobs and head into a major recession, so be it. It's the only thing that will start an exodus of those here on the take.

I'd rather a seriously harsh recession than what we have now, get them on their way.

The only people wishing for the destruction of our country are those who welcome opening our borders to the 4 corners of the globe.

Guillotine.

Our islands are too precious for that. Maybe somewhere more familiar to them, maybe central Africa? Or Asia?

If a multinational were to were to announce the creation of, say, 100,000 jobs for the country, a lot of people would hail this as beneficial. But we long ago passed the point where job creation was the main priority. It was once but is not now. Now the problem is housing and certain services in short supply but mainly housing. Our thinking, however, is clouded by horrendous times in the past when we did have high unemployment and job creation was indeed the priority. It has seeped into the culture that creating jobs is a good thing even if we have to bring in people to fill those jobs from outside the EU, while Irish and EU people are leaving because they can't find housing.

I posted a question to a series of government minister’s from the last government.

Why are we socially housing EU citizens beyond 12 weeks who have never made any social contributions here and why are they on continuous welfare which is way beyond any defined obligations?

I got back a pile of garbage responses nothing linked to fact.

This means a significant amount of housing units (100s of thousands) are taken up that would be otherwise available to young people to rent and not to live in supplemented by the state.

The challenge is the government are not even acknowledging the crisis for this cohort of people referred to in the article above. Too busy with their snouts in the bonanza trough of NGO’s this approved housing body scams.

In wider Europe there are real crisis with youth unemployment and housing. I don’t see any political solution across the Dail as Sinn Fein were / are open door champions.

Their are groups here that have 70-100% unemployment rates and the solution is not to ask why are they here. It’s to create nonsense quangos like Dora’s to ensure they can be a maximum drain on the system. Most of these cohorts return home to vacation as well.

Most likely the solutions come in the form of a pan European party not yet existing. All things happen from a vacuum of leadership deficit and systemic corruption which has engulfed the EU project.

Not sure why at an EU level it’s allowing individual countries to run separate legislation change to an EU problem - individual solutions are predicated on creating a pass the parcel as we have seen here with people coming here even other EU countries even potentially in IPAS programs there. But our Government being weak just rolls over and the NGO’s swoop in and hoover up more “Clients”

One of the most remarkable talking points of our general election was the government parties FF FG and the greens attempting to take great credit for how they have helped irish people in the housing and cost of living crisis through maintaining the help to buy scheme.

A scheme which cost the exchequer since its introduction in 2017 1.14 billion. Thats 1.14 billion of a tax rebate for first time buyers, if you haven't paid enough or any tax in the previous 4 years the payment is incremental or not at all you do not qualify. Over 7 years 1.14 billion was spent on taxpayers to help them get on the property ladder in a housing crisis.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/documents/statistics/tax-expenditures/help-to-buy-stats.pdf

Government Spending is estimated to be 125 billion for 2025 it was 120 billion in 2024.

That level of spending is unprecedented 10 years ago we spent 50 billion less.

I have asked the respective ministers for housing and social protection to confirm again our requirement to socially house and pay social protection to EU citizens who simply migrate here and make no social contributions.
The call for more and more housing seems like it’s pointless when we have an unknown amount of existing units occupied unnecessarily.

Have you not heard of the Irish government??

Over 7 years 1.14 billion was spent on taxpayers to help them get on the property ladder in a housing crisis.

And if reports are to be believed (i think they're way under reported) we spent that in one year alone on the asylum scam. Feathering the nest of ffg cronies and slum landlords.

You know it's bad when even immigrants are posting how bad it has got.