Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

interesting story reported by Haaretz. If confirmed, just shows how rotten the Israel Govt. is. We already have War Crimes and Genocide - now there is treason.

I remember all the posts venting their spleens about Israel was the only democratic nation in the Middle East. With the most moral army "in the world".

Seems that's tad off mark now.

Hopefully this adds more impetus to the cause of Israelis who are sickened by their Governments actions and want it gone.

Haaretz:
The Qatari Connection: Yair Golan Calls for Probe Into 'Treason' by Netanyahu and His Staff

The leader of the Democrats Party commented on a Channel 12 News report claiming that one staffer provided PR services to Qatar on hostage negotiation and on Haaretz's revelation that two others provided similar services to the Gulf state in 2022. Netanyahu's Likud party dismissed the reports as 'fake News'

Would that be ready meals? Or just staples like flour, which need power, water etc. to turn into something edible. Power and water which Gazans don't have.

I wonder how many calories were on the table in Netanyahu's luxury penthouse suite in New York last week?

Yup fair enough, can be a bit tense in here sometimes!

I'll tell you what. I'll let Marko reply for himself. He is a big boy. My post which he is avoiding for days had links and data. I asked him to provide links to back up his claims too. We were baselining.

To be blunt, your post is nonsense too but thanks for taking an interest. Your empathy seeps through your propaganda. But let's see if Marko can help you out. @markodaly

It's a tabloid trash newspaper that has a history of pulling stunts like this. Basically trying to create situations and confrontations so that they have shocking headlines. This one was apparently called Operation Undercover Jew and the guy was going to visit various Muslim neighbourhoods around Sydney wearing a mic and glasses with a hidden camera. While camera crews would also secretly film any incidents.

A pretty stinging article on Netanyahu here by the guardian. Probably about the feeling in Israel too. Netanyahu is a monster, I hope this ceasefire lasts and he gets everything he deserves. There is hope of better if he was gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/14/israel-benjamin-netanyahu-7-october

This line was very telling.

"Israeli media rarely show the devastation Israeli bombardment has wreaked on the strip; most Israelis don’t see what the rest of the world sees."

I am not one bit surprised. I'd say the propaganda machine is at full pitch.

They believe it's all justified under the doctrine of self defense. The rank hypocrisy is that if another military did the same thing to parts of Israel they would see things rather differently- they wouldn't view it as permissable because the military in question viewed it as total war- we'd hear about the inhumanity of it all from them. A poster, summed up this double standard when he expressed concern for the emaciated Israeli hostages but had nothing to say about Palestinians, who in some cases were held indefinitely without a trial or being charged with anything, who also looked in bad shape. Of course for anyone who is even handed the concern would be for civilians on both sides. With this in mind as long as Hamas and the current Israeli Government are in power the best interest of civilians on both sides will not be served.

There is no justification for holding those people in captivity. None.

Hamas had no right to take them captive.

Hamas had no right to take them across the border into Gaza.

Hamas had no right to keep them in captivity for nearly 18 months.

And Hamas has no right to tie their release to any ceasefire agreement, as if those those people are tradable commodities that they own and can treat like chattel, because their desperate for 'A Win'.

It's just another Hamas strawman narrative that it is Israel's responsibility to have them released.

Funny how horrifying things happen in all all-out wars but most are not considered genocide. Only when someone can use it as a stick to beat da Joos.

Nobody considers the nightly air raids on Berlin between ~1940-1945 as "genocide" nor Operation Meetinghouse, the same is true of many "bad guy" actions during such wars. For example, the Nasties during WWII did uphold some international laws (such as on the treatment of Prisoners of War) and even some really awful things they did like bombings of British cities were not AFAIK been considered genocidal.

No Jews, no news.

Funny how Netanyahu and Gallant are wanted for War Crimes.

Do you think that is because they are "joos" (to use your own distasteful description of Jews)?

Or do you think it's because they are deemed answerable for crimes against humanity?

The photos of the doctor released last week were shocking. Beaten, tortured and starved. And just for being a doctor helping Palestinians.

Shocking but not surprising. Israel has been mistreating Palestinians for decades.

And isn't it telling how much recent outrage there has been on the treatment of Israeli hostages yet tumbleweed when it comes to the Palestinians?

The outrage here when the previous hostages were released having lost a few pounds was palpable. Imagine the reaction if an Israeli hostage was anally raped with an iron rod…

Nasty, apparently Hamas threatens remaining hostages with a 'time is running out' hourglass.

https://archive.ph/aVdqy

"Israel has decried the hostage release ceremony as “despicable and cynical” after one of the captives was forced to hold an hourglass that read “time is running out”.

You seem to bring up the same points again and again despite it being explained to that you many times that international law largely came out about after the horrors world wars 2. Also you are bordering on being anti semitic with your implication that Jews have a hive mind who all support the actions of Israel. News flash they don't. You can keep being an apologist for war crimes but don't assume you speak all for jews. You also speak of total war being acceptable but you 'd be the first to cry fowl if Israel was on the receiving end of this doctrine and the military involved cited your ridiculous contention that a self defense doctrine enables you to violate international war and commit war crimes. It does not, but that won't stop you from carry on with your nauseating exceptionalism .