Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

You haven't condemned Israel either.

Using your analogy of the wife-beater seems to confirm that whilst you will not "congratulate" a wife beater for stopping, you will be silent and let another wife- beater continue on unabated. If that is the case, the hypocrisy is astonishing.

By the way, I didn't "congratulate" Hamas at all - I'm grateful, for the sake of Gazan civilians that Hamas will continue honouring the ceasefire. Just clearing up your mistaken analysis of what I actually posted.

Misrepresenting the words written in a post appears to be another tactic. Its just tiresome and disingenuous.

But seems to be the only tactic left.

Israel as a state actor also has a right to defend its borders.

Problem is, its never defined its borders….

"So what's your plan for Gaza and the hostages. I gave mine, you addressed one part, what do you think Hamas should do"?

From my second last post in reply to you, if you didn't understand that question, fine.

If you go back to the original post I made, that you replied to, I said I thought Hamas should still give up the hostages and explained why I thought that.

It seems to me from your last reply that you think they should hold onto the hostages, as Israel is in breach of the ceasefire. If I'm wrong let me know!

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How you get that I want Hamas to hold onto the hostages from my last post is odd. It's ver clear. Perhaps you read it too quickly.

By the way, are you aware that the current ceasefire agreement was put forward by Hamas last June. Netanyahu rejected it then?

Seems alleged War Criminal #1 wants Hamas to hold onto the hostages - he's even doubled down on that today - he's stalling the second phase of the agreement.

He hasn't given two hoots about the hostages and their families for 16 months. And still doesn't.

Hamas seeing sense and have backed down…

Seems Israel has had their bluff called too and have also backed down. All good news for the Israeli hostages and their families plus the Palestinian hostages who will also be released.

Great that both Hamas and Israel are now sticking to agreed deal.

Haaretz:

Three days after announcing it would halt the release of hostages due to Israel's alleged truce violations, Hamas announced that it is committed to completing the rest of the cease-fire agreement with Israel as planned, including the release of three hostages on Saturday. A Palestinian source told Haaretz that Israel and Hamas have agreed on implementing Saturday's release, and that humanitarian aid entering Gaza, including tents, fuel, and medical supplies, will increase.

Great that one of the hostages released last week has been released from hospital to continue their recovery - hopefully it's very speedy.

Driving a car is suspicious and you will be killed - if you're a Palestinian.

Haaretz:

• Ohad Ben Ami, released from Hamas captivity on Saturday, has been discharged from Ichilov Hospital after completing medical examinations, and will begin a daily rehabilitation process.
• The IDF said its soldiers shot and killed a Palestinian after he arrived at an army base in his car and approached the troops "in a suspicious manner."

And so did you... any chance you would reply to my post which countered your claim that the people of Gaza have plenty of food?

I never said anything Israel done was justified either. But clippycloppy away there. That's a pretty judgemental high 🐎 piece of posting. But nothing I haven't read 40 times. But none of that saves a life. Now that both sides are back on ceasefire terms maybe peace can be lasting.

Any thoughts on the war crime that has been taking place for over a year?

Providing supplies to the civilian population vs collective punishment

Article 55 of the Fourth Convention requires the Occupying Power, to the fullest extent of the means available to it, “to ensure food and medical supplies to the population. It should, in particular, bring the necessary foodstuffs, medical stores and other articles if the resources of the occupied territory are inadequate”.

Common Article 33 provides that collective punishment is a war crime. Collective punishment is a penalty imposed on a group for acts allegedly carried out by members of the group and applies to international and non-– international armed conflicts.  

Contrary to its duty under Article 55, the act of Israel in cutting off water, electricity, food, and fuel to the population of Gaza punishes the entire population of Gaza for the acts of Hamas – is a collective punishment – as the objective of the siege is that of destroying Hamas. 

(Don't expect an answer)

Still accusing others of shenanigans, while dodging the below?

I genuinely do think it is good manners to give me an honest reply, given I took the time out of my day to answer you on your Hamas hostage post.

I really don't get what the issue is, you are online, and the question is simple....why the reluctance to respond? I am genuinely baffled by the way you post

what specific actions that Israel have carried out do you condemn, with regard to their treatment of Palestinian civilians during this war??

Read it whatever way you like. Twist my words around however you want. My views are clear and have been from day one. I have no sympathy for Hamas - I'm just grateful that the hostages are going to be released on all sides.

Others choose to ignore what Israel has done and continues to do. Some even justify it. Some even revel in it.

Hamas may have not released the hostages this coming weekend - there would have been justification for it. The agreement was broken by Israel. Hamas could have used that to halt the ceasefire. But they chose not to - that's what I'm grateful for. Or the war would have kicked off again.

But, in the words of your own analogy, the wifebeater on one side is continuing. Supporting that or at least turning a blind eye to it is tacit "congratulation".

Taking Palestinian children is not a war prisoner, Has Israel declared war on Palestine ? Illegally occupying another state does not mean you have judicial control. Israel is interfering and nobody has stopped them, another country could do the same.

You know what hostages, you may call them detainees, but Israel has been critised for the holding of people without charge, many of these are children, some then illegally taken out of Palestine into Israel. These are hostages, until such time that a charge is brought AND a conviction secured.

You seen to know a lot about some facts, but nothing about others.

You know about the Geneva convention, the principal of non-interference but nothing about illegal settlements, stealing land, taking hostages.

We've seen Trump throw Ukraine under the bus earlier this week.

If he can be that ruthless with Ukraine, I think not only would he throw the Palestinians under the bus, but he'd personally drive the bus to knock them down, and then reverse back over them.