Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

What's happened today is nothing short of an unmitigated disaster and wake-up call for Europe.

Trump has not only went behind the back of the Western allies and unilaterally opened negotiations with Putin, he's also instantly harmed their negotiating position by having the Secretary of State acknowledge Ukraine won't get their 2014 borders back.

Putin and the members of his regime must be ecstatic tonight. It's looking like he's achieved the goal of splitting the NATO alliance on Ukraine.

Well we can always get Michael D to write a strongly worded letter.

So what are people's impressions of Russia now?

A dictatorship that killed off it's opposition in full view of the world. Navalny dead. The press in prison. Hundreds of thousands of Russians killed on the whim of a mad man. Cities flattened in Ukraine. Civilian infrastructure targeted. Women raped. Children abducted. Men with their hands tied shot in the street. Prisoners of war gratiutously executed. Ukrainians having their heads chopped off by Russian soldiers and filmed and broadcasted. Heads put on stakes. Tanks that were supposed to be invincible Russian technology being blown up by drones. Russian soldiers walking away on fire. Russian soldiers being driven over by their own. Russian soldiers being thrown into holes in the ground for refusing to fight. Taped to trees for refusing to fight. Sent at gunpoint to advance and shot by their own for retreating. A coup by a chef of Putin's who he made into a leader of a mercenary group that had operations in Africa. Black Africans fighting for Wagner. North Koreans fighting for Putin. Iranian drones flying into Europe. Hamas being wined and dined in Moscow prior to their incursion in Israel. Hamas doing their incursion on Putin's birthday. Tankers dragging anchors in the Baltic sea to break communication lines. One nordic country getting serious on said tankers and raiding and impounding. More Russian tankers rotten from lack of maintanence sinking to the sea floor. Russian warships and a submarine attacked and sunk by Ukraine. The oil facilities of Russia being attacked nightly by Ukrainian drones. Pictures of the Russian war machine using repurposed Ladas and donkeys on the frontline. Chinese golfbuggies and Chinese motorbikes.

Who's the crack head?

Keep going, almost

And in the process, replacing President Zelenski and his government by a Putin chosen one, and taking control of all of Ukraine,which was what he tried to do back in Feb 2022.

Well the EU will have a choice, either support Ukraine now, all in and destroy Putin, or do nothing and Ukraine falls to Putin, meaning that Putin will then be on the EU's border. With all that would entail ie:- permanent EU military presence needed on the border to contain Putin.

Belarus shooting down drones. Maybe electric warfare sent them that way

Well reportedly Putin doesn't want a land swap as part of any deal so he's obviously still wedded to the total annexation and subjugation of Ukraine.

So Trump can go back to locking up kids in cages and Putin can continue to drive Russia back to the 19th century.

I do wonder what will happen on the ground now in Ukraine and Kursk. Like do you leave your forces in Kursk as a bargaining chip with Russian land held which I can honestly say will end up 100% back to Russia, I cannot see Ukraine being allowed hold any of this once these talks get under way. Would they be better off taking these forces from there and have them fight on Ukraine soil proper so to stop as much Russian advances there before eastern Ukraine gets carved up. Also what would both sets of soldiers feel like on the ground at the moment, will Russian forces feel better were going to win, will Ukraine forces feel were fighting to save our country and yet a tosser in Washington and a prick in Moscow are the ones who will decide out country's future. I can only imagine the gut punch Ukrainian forces must feel at this moment. You could be on the front lines in eastern Ukraine at this very moment and in the next few weeks your going to be told that it's now Russian territory.

Do you accept Russia has a right to take over Ukraine, or the US has a right to eliminate Palestine?