General Premier League Thread 2024-25

'As a rival ' - who exactly are Liverpool's rivals in the PL title race? They don't actually have one.

There are 2 properly tough fixtures in Liverpool's next 5. Away to Everton tonight and away to Villa. Newcastle are decent, but Liverpool should be beating them at Anfield.

Just on the notion that Liverpool haven't improved since last season - I genuinely wonder how much football people are watching. Gravenberch settling in was mentioned. Gravenberch has gone from being a bit part player, to one of Liverpool's most important players. On his form this season, he is one the best midfielders in the PL and CL. How anyone can say that Liverpool haven't improved from last season is just strange.

Got to hand it to them, Everton putting a photo of the current Arsenal manager celebrating scoring a goal against Liverpool as the cover of their programme today is 👌 excellent banter

Up there with calling their club store at the Liverpool One Shopping Centre "Everton Two" so that the postal address is "Everton Two, Liverpool One"

Not at all! I chuckled at seeing the Arteta pic. I love visiting Liverpool, Liverpudlians are terrific. Some of them just happen to support the wrong team but outside of the 90mins I've no issues with them, proper banter and none of the tradegy nonsense or poverty shaming.

City's Rodri tifo came across as more petty than funny, Arteta scoring at Goodison was a pretty hilarious call to put on the cover

Everton are ahead against Liverpool. Beto the goalscorer.

Gravenberch improving does not mean the whole team has improved. His improvement is partly down to age and acclimatization and also his position seems to have changed too. He seems more mature this season and not really just a long legged deer striding around.

What other players in the Liverpool squad have improved? Because they didn't buy anyone to improve the team. They have largely been playing to the same high level this season that they were last season up until this point.

How many phantom free kicks has the referee given? I've counted at least 3, all against Liverpool.

Michael Oliver is dying to send off someone in this match. A few questionable calls and questionable yellow cards too.

And the Everton fans boo him off!

In fairness he's been brutal across the board. Nearly like he's reffing the game he planned to beforehand not the one unfolding in front of him. He's overthought the occasion.

Other than the goals very little to talk about. Everton's best attacking player this season goes off injured. Liverpool's midfield fail to show up.

Jones and Núñez double swap at around 57/58mins I reckon. Tsimikas after that. Maybe see Trent at the end.

Also how ridiculously quiet is Goodison?? Not only is it their last derby there, but it's also likely the latest kick off of all remaining games, don't think they'll have another night time kick off. Should be hopping but it's so flat. Can hear Liverpool fans singing songs throughout that half!

In what manner do you think they have improved?

As a collective, I don't think they have improved from an attacking sense. They have a fit Salah for the entirity of this season alright though. Gakpo is playing better but Nunez is not involved this season so somewhat balanced off.

The midfield change seems to be more from a different tactical set up to that of actually playing better. Maybe this is what you're referring to. They have changed how they play in midfield with more of a slower pace and more control wanted, as opposed to be more quick paced direct passing style.

Konate is having a much better season than last year alright but he has played to this level in previous seasons at times. Alisson is not at his previous levels at all, and Robertson is much worse. I think overall the defence is much of a muchness and no real improvement. Availability is higher again though in defence even in Alisson missed a high number of games again.

Jasus this match is awful. So stop start, Oliver is blowing for every minor touch.

I called Everton causing an upset before it, and I they look most likely to do something. Liverpool really off it here.

Liverpool will be so annoyed with the referee. He played 7 minutes of added time, when there 5 minutes to be added. There was the clash of the 2 Everton players, but I don't think that took up 2 minutes.

Thanks be to god that goal wasn't disallowed for some footling infringement…

Sore drawers

I'm surprised at Liverpool reaction....not very classy I have to say. A draw not a bad result

Didn't see the match but I'm guessing Michael Oliver show as usual?