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Let me push that stool in for you: the off-topic thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I was in TESCO yesterday, and is it just me, or are there a lot of Double IPAs for sale by Irish brewers?



  • Administrators Posts: 55,019 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It's everywhere now.

    I think I am in the minority when I prefer my beer to be in the 4.5-5.5% range. Anything above this really lacks appeal for me.

    I got a mystery beer craft selection for Christmas, it was like 12 cans and almost all of them are high ABV. Some of them are stupid high like 10%, who wants to drink that? I don't like drinking beer as if it were a glass of wine.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    On a rainy Sunday afternoon, with the paper out on the table, I can sip on something hefty like a Sierra Nevada Narwhal (10% I think?) and be happy out.

    Probably less fond of Double IPAs, but I have a soft spot for them from time to time, if you really want to get a massive blast of hops, something that'll knock you for six.

    I do like 4.5-5.5% for session drinking, but that's like a different game mode…



  • Administrators Posts: 55,019 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    How long would you sip on it for?

    I suspect my problem is that I'd end up drinking it too fast and then be looking another one…



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Well, if it's a very strong beer - 7% and up - then I'd probably take twice or three times as long as a lower ABV beer of the same volume.

    I do recognise the same issue you're talking about, though, particularly if I was drinking a stronger beer in a bar… The habit of knocking it back the way you would a session beer will come to the surface unless you're mindful about what you're doing.

    Sometimes - at home as well - I'd have a few session beers to quench the thirst, and then cap it off with a stronger beer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    I'd find it hard to down a hefty beer and / or have more than one in a sitting.

    If I know I have a big stout in the fridge, I will typically pair it with a standard 440ml can of a session beer, or a small 330ml can of a slightly higher ABV beer (e.g., an IPA).

    There were a couple of "micro IPAs" floating around, and they used to work well for such purposes.

    I've almost completely gone off barleywines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,179 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Stout in the fridge? Heresy! 😃

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    It usually comes out sometime before it is to be drank, in my defense…!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    It'll always warm up but once it's opened, it's not getting any colder!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    If your house is warm, drinking stout and red wine at room temperature might be quite soupy, so I'm with Pen Rua on this one.

    Store cold, let it warm up and drink to taste… I like it a little cooler than room temperature.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    The pint bottle of Guinness in a pub dilemma : Shelf is too warm, fridge is too cold 🤷. (unless it's a chilly pub, then shelf is perfect)



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    The thick reusable glass bottle is too good an insulator, so the beer is still too cold when you pour the second half into the half-pint glass. The sweet spot is to get the barman to take a few bottles out of the fridge so at least the subsequent ones will be at cellar temperature by the time you buy them. Easy peasy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    This is exactly what I've done in the past. Suffer one too cold, knowing the next one will be about right!



  • Administrators Posts: 55,019 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I was in Paris and was served red wine a bit chilled and it was revolutionary to me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,344 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Room temperature when it comes to wine seems to mean that of a draughty castle \ manor house … not a central heated one :)

    I remember in Lyon on a warm evening, the carafe of house red came out slightly chilled, and was better for it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I always maintain that most Irish people want their white wine too cold and their red wine too warm!

    I've been served luke warm red wine in restaurants. Euch!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Knew a lad that used to take his pint bottle off the shelf, pour a quarter into the glass and put the rest next to the fire and then Mull the pint with a poker!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    The BrewDog founder, James Watt, keeps coming up on my social feed of late. He seems to be trying to launch himself as a business influencer type, really leaning into his being a "captain in the North Atlantic" prior to starting BrewDog. He's picking up plenty of viral headlines for himself too.

    I'm also starting to see a lot of parodies poking fun at his approach & content.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    DIAGEO IS CONSIDERING spinning off or selling its historic Guinness beer business, according to reports.

    Bloomberg News reported today that the drinks giant is also reviewing the future of its 34% stake in Moet Hennessy, the drinks division of luxury firm LVMH.

    A spinoff would mean carving out Guinness as a separate company, rather than selling it altogether. 

    https://www.thejournal.ie/diageo-considering-selling-guinness-6604375-Jan2025/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I thought Guinness, literally, couldn't keep up with demand! Must be other areas bringing down share price!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Diageo says it has no intention to sell Guinness or stake in Moet Hennessy

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/0127/1493094-diageo-says-it-has-no-intention-to-sell-guinness/



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Interesting but I'd imagine if the right buyer with the right offer came along they'd change their mind. Presumingly Heineken would be barred from purchasing by the competition authority as they would then only all 3 major stout brands?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Smoke, fire etc? Bloomberg News hardly came up with the report out of thin air. Someone in Diageo leaking info to fly some kites to see market reaction?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,746 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    And the bulk of the lager market; and at this stage possibly >50% of the draught cider market (Bulmers seems to be in retreat on draught, plenty of places have Orchard Theives or Rockshore as their sole draught option).

    Only option would be Heineken might be basically selling the Cork ops to someone else and moving actual Heineken production to James Gate/Newbridge; a huge amount of faffing around. Let Carlsberg or ABInbev buy Murphys/Beamish and the Coors/Fosters/Tiger etc licences.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Possibly, but this story comes up regularly. I would say it gets discussed a lot within Diageo and is never fully off the agenda. That doesn't mean it'll ever actually happen, though.

    I'd have thought Carlsberg would be the obvious candidate to buy it, since there's an existing longstanding commercial relationship and they otherwise have no presence in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,746 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Carlsberg now have a soft drink manufacturing arm here, which I would think increases the chances they may want their own brewing arm.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Pint of Perlenbacher anyone?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I can't understand why Lidl would do this?

    Does anybody know the particular supermarket?

    What is the story?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,746 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    NI has our licencing system, but mostly pickled in aspic since the 1900s. This seems to be the easiest way for that branch to get off-sales.

    They used to run their off-sales in Strabane out of a petrol station that already had a licence, because the main shop didn't (this was resolved)

    The Belgard Road Lidl in Tallaght has both a licence and a site with permission for a pub, but it was never built.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    It's actually the closest Lidl to my house but I never really go there much as it doesn't have an off licence at present. Dundonald has a population of 16k and only has 1 pub at present so there definitely is room for another. I guess they got a full licence with the idea of just opening an offy and then realised they could also make a few quid selling pints. I'm curious to see whether it will be a "Lidl" pub or just a bog standard one.



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