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Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I mean it's not as good as the community plans coming to an end shortly.

    Despite the fact that wholesale electricity is cheaper than it was 12 months and significantly cheaper than 24 months ago.

    Bit like car insurance, the energy plans across the providers are suddenly suspiciously similar as well.

    And just being absolutely pernickety 🙈 it's 26c/13c.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭John arse


    Actually 25.89c/12.41c so the earlier poster P K was closer.

    Screenshot_2025-01-31-21-24-25-13.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Comer1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭John arse


    That's a D/N plan- Threshold is for overall amount of units then a slight price increase but doesn't affect me personally.



  • Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,732 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Something wrong with the Electric Ireland Home Electric+ Boost EV plan? Page loads, but sign up gives me an "error" page.

    https://www.electricireland.ie/residential/products/home-electric-night-boost-ev

    energypal.ie says it's the best for €350 credit which covers the high standing charge. And with solar we only used about 350kWh of day rate last year. The 2 hour window sucks a bit for EV, but we don't do much driving so it should work for us.

    Last year we paid just under €200 in electricity (including €425 of credits) and energypal says based on our HDF we'd spend just under €600 on this plan… if the page would load



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,477 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    It's working for me on the phone, I think you're mistaken with the 350, the 350 is towards the installation of a charge point it isn't actual credit. You need your seai letter of offer for the CP grant to get the 350, anyway I think it's a crap plan, 2 hours is useless. I'm a small mileage driver and even at that it takes a bit of planning using the BG 3 hour window.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭Bannerman1969


    Received this morning. I'm on the day/night rate of circa .25c / .12c per kW.

    Dear Flogas BWG Affinity Member,

    Thank you for choosing Flogas, we’re delighted to power and heat your home and to be part of the BWG family.

    We’re excited to let you know that we’re working on an exclusive new electricity and gas offer tailored just for you. As a valued customer, your trust means everything to us, and we truly appreciate our ongoing relationship with BWG.

    You may receive notification by post of your contract coming to an end in the coming weeks. That is a regulatory requirement, and no action is needed on your part until we get back to you with your new offer.

    We’ll be in touch in the coming weeks with all the details, and we look forward to continuing to meet your energy needs in the future

    Kind regards,

    The Flogas Team



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭obi604


    same here, I wonder are we in store for better than 25c/12c



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭damestreet007


    anyone switched to axa energia plan. do they ask for any documents for verification ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭Bannerman1969


    Even if it stayed the same id be v happy. I see Energia are doing this rate also on the d/n meter so worse case scenario we could switch if Flogas are not competitive . For me - I much rather the d/n meter and the ability to charge cars, battery, run washing machine, dishwasher and emersion over the night over 9hrs rather than these 3 or 4 hour windows.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭obi604


    True, I also run all that stuff overnight, If i tried to fit it in to that 2-6am window, could have a car charging, and maybe another on a 3 pin plug, dishwasher running, washing machine on etc could be maxing out.

    I like to get car charged, then run dishwasher, then washing machine and then dryer when we wake up, I like to break them all up so not to put too much of a load.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,477 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Standard issue, I never renewed when the contract was ending to see what they were offering. They never contacted me when I left which was unusual, every other provider always made an attempt to get me to stay. The Energia smart plan for a standard smart meter is almost exactly those rates with the added bonus of the cheaper standing charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Same email except I'm on the smart plan with the peak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    We have been on board gais EV rate for the last 11 months or so, they rang up there basically offering the same deal again.

    Looked up energypal.ie with our HDF file filtered to the last 11 months (when we got the EV) and to my surprise we are better off not going for an EV rate. Energia data plan is cheaper for us than our current plant by €200+ a year. The energia plan is cheaper in general

    4c cheaper on day rate - 40% of our usage

    13c cheaper on peak - 10%

    7c cheaper on night - 14%

    6.5c more expensive on the EV rate (no EV rate, just the night rate) - 36%

    So even do the EV hours is a good chunk of our usage, the cheaper rates in general more than makes up for it.

    It's funny it's kind of will be disappointing in some ways to move away from the 7c EV rate because the direct comparison of how much the EV costs to run versus our ice car goes up! But I'll take that bragging rights hit for an overall cheaper price.

    Will be interesting that next year's HDF file will be harder to compare as we'll have no incentive to try out the dryer on at 2am etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Does the Energia standard day night play have a threshold and if yes, is only 1000kwh per two months?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,477 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    It isn't their day night plan it's their standard smart plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,477 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Very same recommendation for me I'm with BG since July.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭John arse


    Screenshot_2025-02-04-21-27-31-53.jpg

    Nightsaver which is D/N 3000 day/2000 night per billing period.(The first paragraph - disregard the rest.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Good to know. Our highest usage month was 1000kwh in total, so two months of that would be about 1000kwh on the night rate so should be easily covered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭damestreet007


    anyone faced this issue before with EI. my contract is until aug on standard plan. im getting an ev this month. so if I want to switch to their SST smart plan they wouldn't let me. they can only offer their costliest night boost plan but not the cheapest to their existing customer?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭custom_build


    Thank you for the information. Used it to change contract. Saving a good few hundred a year! 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    They have a 2 hour window for the ev rate, will that be enough for you? I switched to BG and they gave 50 credit which will nullify the charge to break contract from Electric Ireland.

    ☀️ 8.2kWp ⚡4kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    It might be worth breaking out of your contract, we did it last year and it was only €50 or something, the savings we made in one month easily paid for it. (But maybe we were on a very bad plan)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭damestreet007


    thanks im on standard 23 cents 24hr plan. its good enough but not worth it night charging ev. im have 6months remaining on contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Comer1


    It would make more sense to have it the other way around with 2,000 day and 3,000 night😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭John arse


    It only goes up by a few cents for the units above the threshold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    It's €50 to break the contract and you might make that back on the standing charges alone. The Energia one quoted above would save you 10c/kWh charging and the daytime rate is only marginally above your 24hr one.

    If you were only charging 50kWh a week, you'd save over €20 a month. And if you switched some high usage appliances like clothes and dish washing to night time, you'd save more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Kagawa


    Hi all, does anyone know when I can switch provider without incurring a penalty charge. My Bord Gáis deal runs out in March and it looks like energia is the best one for me from energy pal. I don’t think I can specify a future date when I want to switch.

    It’s odd seeing as the energia plan doesn’t seem to have an EV part but I guess overall it works out cheaper, the energia plan is Smart Data & 33% Discount and the night rate is 13.49 cents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,477 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    The day after your contract ends is the day to move. It's in the top right hand corner of you bill when your contract ends, mine is July 14, I'll initiate a move on the 15th. Using the actual unit usage figures on your bill, D/P/N and EV with the Energia rates see does it save you much, I think you'd be better off waiting until your contract expires.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,863 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    my flogas BWG deal is up end of March, nothing as good currently available, Energy pal suggests that the energia smart data 33% discount plan will end up with a similar annual bill due to the lower standing charge.

    Anything i am missing?

    Interesting the section where it tells you what size battery you could use, looks like it needs to be 25kwh+



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