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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    The forest I posted pictures from was not there when infrastructure has been put through the land. The duty should lie on both infrastructure owners and landowners to keep things safe and reliable. AFAIK many countries were able to implement that somehow. But that needs cooperation, either triggered by mutual agreement or enforced by law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I know but then they shouldn't have included it as the highest gust



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    I still have to saw through the main truck of this old lady but I am pleasantly surprised there's no ash dieback on it's main limbs. She was as healthy as a trout but was ripped up from her roots.

    Just on which came first 'the hen or the egg' or in this instance the ' trees or the poles', I've planted trees under farm schemes and your not aloud plant within an asses roar of over head wires. Not sure about the multi national plantations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    I see starlink runs off 12v & needs up to 100w but averages around 40w when in use.
    so you could run it off a standard camping lifepo4 battery for 12 hours or so.
    Your best off having a way to charge it from a generator or your car rather than solar though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Thorny Queen


    I have been in north, south, east and west Donegal over the last week and I have never seen the likes of it in all my life and we had the 1998 storm bad.

    I saw literally half forests down like matchsticks...but not uniformly falling in the same direction, trees falling all over the shop. I suppose that's why there is a lot of power outages still.

    It's truly incredible that there was only one fatality (RIP) in all of this. Even my local hospital had a massive tree fall parallel to the building. If it had fallen in on top of roof, I loathe to think what would have happened.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Bocadilloo


    Just watched virgin media news to get the update on the outages. Not popular news anymore so a very short update. They are more interested in the Grammy's and what's happening in the US.

    Listening to VM news report on world topics is like listening to a bunch of kids explaining religion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I have seen the same in local mixed forests. An area with a load of trees that seem to have fallen on top of each other going different directions. I can only imagine what it could have been like at the time. I wonder did we lose many birds that night.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    Lower average wind speeds and hit areas with very sparse populations.

    Irish commentary also keeps underplaying just how much of an outlier we are on one-off scatter development. The local distribution networks here are absolutely enormous for the number of houses served due to the 'pattern' of development.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭OldRio


    To be honest that's fine. If they want to take the money without the responsibility well feck em



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    For mine, I have 2 UPS backups. Power goes, they kick in and can drive power to Starlink and laptop when the battery is running low…only concerned with being covered when its absolutely critical. I have a small generator but it isn't really worth 2 sh1ts. In a few months, I will probably buy a big f*ck off generator capable of going to the mains.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Plenty of cash? There is no payment for single poles. nothing, not a penny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭sundodger5


    As much as i would like to have a sustainable backup power supply following the storm it just doesn't make financial sense.

    I can probably pick up something that will keep most of the house running for a couple of grand.

    Not getting much in the line of solar panels and batteries for that.

    Maybe I am wrong so I would be happy to get opinions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭peterofthebr


    Allot of forestry damage alright, can see huge gaps on forests from roads. 80,000 hectares of trees gone. Mostly where thinning was done. Guess we can stop importing Brazilian chippings for the power plants for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭EletricMan


    Get a AVR generator and a changeover switch. Solar is only good if the sun is shining, which in winter months isn't too often and you would need a large battery 10kwh at least to keep the house going over night. I have solar and a generator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Agree completely...i persuaded my father from getting a Tesla for the same reason...hate seeing them on the road these days...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    This pic shows the punch in the guts Ireland got.

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    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande



    I am in a part of the country that gets several power outages a year. Most of this is just maintenance for several hours, I can tolerate that. However, I am 200 meters above sea level, this means I have a higher probability to experience severe conditions such as snow and severe wind storms being not far from the Atlantic on a south facing slope. Every 8 to 10 years that does happen, this year I experienced long outages due to snow bringing down lines, but was not as badly impacted by the wind storm, though lines had to be de-energised for 12 hours and other short intervals to allow for repairs across the area. We have been without power for 2 weeks in past decades (wind storm) and when it snows heavily, I am housebound.

    In addition to the ESBs operating advice in the twitter link. You will need somewhere to securely store the generator out of sight and out of mind (desirable and liftable item), you will need fuel and somewhere to store it - calculate the consumption rate for the model and load, this will get mighty expensive when the outage is prolonged, but so is freezing and any sickness that goes with that. You will have to calculate the minimum power requirements when sizing it - water pump, lights, heating, kettle and whatever essentials. (my wood burner control panel would not operate -was able to fall back to oil boiler.). Don't forget maintenance to check it starts, once a year when the weather is good, watch out for "stale" fuel, see E10 petrol and water.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Donegal Ken


    This shows the max wind gust overall, will be interesting to see how these differ after the data is reviewed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,487 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Tree roots don't account for ivy adding extra 'sail' in a storm.

    I'm gonna be the first to say Ash dieback isn't going to have as much impact as first feared, those calling for preemptive action may be proven wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,487 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Just on this has anyone seen eir working on their infrastructure? Wires on the ground and poles broken in Longford with no sign of being fixed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Interesting video on how monoculture plantation trees grow fast, tall, crowded, weak. The ones at the edges are stronger as they grow with the wind and have more space. Remove these any the rest just blow down in very strong winds. Also in NI, electric pylons going though these plantations get destroyed by the same fallen trees..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Not poles. Trees for goodness sake. The grants are for trees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    Agree with you as regards the ivy acting as a sail and adding extra weight to the tree .

    I have some ash trees on my land that have fallen in recent storms and the core of the tree is black with dieback. It surprised me to see that this very large old ash has no sign of disease. I have two more ash trees,that fell victim to Eowyn, to tackle yet so it'll be interesting to see what they're like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    This Is why I removed ivy from trees after the previous storm. These trees withstood storm Eowyn, perhaps they might not have if the ivy was left on them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭Dazler97




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Paddy Hayes ESBN CEO coming up on Radio1 about the storm effects. Send in your queries Text 51551 Email Us · todaycb@rte.ie · Whatsapp +353870323232

    Edit: He says "[the storm is] a once in a generation event", we will look at preparing for high speed winds in future, trees and impact on lines,.. Not committing to much really, apparently too many issues with the extended infrastructure. No compensation from ESBN for network outages - something which would add to all bills. No PSO levy refund, no standing charge refund. He opines that bills will rise in 2026 to cover costs of the storm outage

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,929 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I would not be using wikipedia as my source for statistical information anyway because anyone can edit it. The UK Met Office separates mountaineous values from stations below 500m in their reports and we don't have mountain stations recording wind or temperature in Ireland.

    Photography site - https://sryanbruenphoto.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Odelay


    The grants only cover plantations for goodness sake. The thousands of kilometers of trees alongside roadside hedges are not covered. anyway, someone is already paid to look after trees near power lines, let them do their job for goodness sake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭OldRio


    I'm in the local town using a cafe Internet. Our power has gone off again. Won't be back until Saturday. Not because of trees on fecking hedgerows but plantation of trees by farmers. That's the problem. Take the grant. Feck everyone else. I live in Leitrim it's a plague on our land. Caused by plantations.

    'Let them do their job'??? How's that going then?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭jj880


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/esb-says-customers-who-have-been-without-power-will-not-be-compensated-1726033.html

    The chief executive of the ESB, Paddy Hayes, has said that the energy company will not be compensating customers who have been without power for days or have incurred costs for alternative accommodation.

    Mr Hayes said that he did not know how much the impact of the storm was going to cost, but it would be significant. “It will cost tens of millions.”

    It was likely that costs would increase in 2026, he said. “Ultimately, that's something that gets scrutinised. And in 2026, it's likely that that will add those charges which are allowed.

    Sound.



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