Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

relegation from this division is a real possibility.
Antrim, Dublin and Laois are all definitely capable of wins against us…..🥲🥲

I honestly think we could be in for a similar fall to which Offaly suffered. Eye has been taken off the ball at underage for years

Poor performance from a depleted panel. We look at home in division 1B. Let’s not throw the toys out yet as Queally is trying some players out who other managers didn’t give a look in to and everyone said they should have (maybe those managers just knew better)

For those saying Kiely is just a forward, I agree that’s where he’s best positioned but he did often start at number 6 for the Waterford minors as was immense at winning ball.

Shameful performance. Abysmal brain dead set up but the lack of fight or anything approaching pride in the jersey is totally unacceptable. I've been following waterford hurling since the late 1970s and today was the worst performance I've seen. We were relegated to Div 3 in 1983 and there is a real possibility of that again. Our underage record for the last 10 years should have had alarm bells ringing, but we've ignored the warnings.

Some of the players on this team- who started today- would'nt get on a lot of club teams in more successful counties. One player who has been in and out of the panel for the last few years- his attitude was a disgrace today. If you don't want to put it all in for your county then kindly **** off!! Actually hard to believe some of the things I witnessed today, trying the same tippy tappy hurling all game despite it not working from minute one and our management sat there watching it doing nothing. You reap what you sew.

Waterford having a city probably masks how small the county is but ye are still a fair bit bigger than Offaly and have no football to compete with. Waterford's barometer should be Clare and for some reason unknown to me looking from the outside ye fall way short of that. And it's not just the county teams either. The stadium, the support and the club game are all in a poor state in comparison.

Carlow in comparison seems to be absolutely exceptional at managing their limited resources.

John Mullane really needs to sit down and think about what he's going to say

Another week of 'ahhhh ehhh but but but but'

The result is bad enough as it is

Wlr needs to offload Kieran, well passed his sell by date. Couldn't give a flying **** about his waffle

jeez don’t mention the stadium we do mediocrity very well here , it what we are best at .

maybe it’s all part of the plan. Forget the league try out as many new players as possible (mullaney, treen etc today) and bring in the big players for April/may when the big teams will be expecting nothing from us and get beaten out the gate…🤣🤣

3 players from last year ie Montgomery, fagan and Lyons gone which are huge losses but we did beat one of the all Ireland finalists last year and were so close to doing same to the winners with as unhinged manager as you could ask for….

Let’s not hit the panic button after one game. Look at Galway last weekend at home and they beat Kilkenny today. Give Queally a chance. He’s giving a lot of lads a go and trying a few positional switches. Let’s judge his first year on how the championship goes and not by the first league game. Our panel is depleted by those who’ve stepped away and by injury. We still rely on a lot of lads with a lot of miles on the clock so Queally has his work cut out for him. He’s doing the right thing by trying out lads. I think Seamus at 2 will work. I think Tom O’Connell is worth a few starts in the league. If he can uncover a few more starters, we’ll be doing well as let’s face it…. we need them.

Credit to Carlow, they have some fine wristy, skillful forwards! Some of the points they got today were top class .

On paper this does look like a very bad defeat, but Carlow did draw with Kilkenny in the Leinster championship last year so obviously they are an improving team. They might claim a few more scalps yet before the year is out.

But it is only the league and we’re also in 1B for a reason. We can’t get out of Munster and finding a panel of players that gives us an opportunity to do so is all that matters. An even older Tadgh, Aussie and Bennett aren’t going to save us. We need new blood.

But he's on record as saying the objective is promotion. So he can't now turn around and say it doesn't matter. It's really hard to express how pathetic we were today. If one player is poor it's a reflection on him. If it's a team then it's on management. We had an inter county team out today with players who couldn't hand pass the ball, couldn't catch the ball, couldn't pick up the ball and couldn't carry the ball. All under no pressure.

We had no idea what to do when we had the ball. For a while in the first half we went route one to a full forward who was against three players. Then we played 6/7 passes laterally around the middle until we lost the ball. Occasionally we got the ball to Jamie Barron who made things happen until he tired in the last 10 mins. And with 20 mins to go we finally realised that a crossfield ball to Patrick Fitzgerald could work. Meanwhile the focal point of our attack was standing at right half back in a positioning that only management can explain. It's not like we need another half back, we need ball winning forwards so trying players in new positions doesn't apply. As someone else pointed out Mark Fitzgerald is a brilliant player but he's not a brilliant full back. Our half back line and midfield struggled badly, particularly in the first half.

I never understood the idea the pressure was off being in the lower division. There is now no manager in inter county hurling under more pressure.

We’ve had problems in our full back line for the last 20 years. Mark Fitz needs to play where the team needs him as does every other player. Fagan was a forward converted to a wing back. Ken McGrath was converted to a back. It’s not madness to try this with Kiely as people are suggesting. Kiely played centre back for Waterford as a minor. Ah lads by all means sack Queally after the championship if it doesn’t work and I’ll be with ye on it but don’t start with the Paraic Fanning witch hunt after one game.

Two posts that addressed none of my points. Why was our skill level so poor? Is that acceptable? I accept there were thirteen players I counted sitting in front of me in the stand unavailable. But those that lined out are inter county players, and they couldn't demonstrate the most basic skills of the game under pressure. That's the real issue, I haven't mentioned the result, all I've spoken of is performance and it was pathetic. Can anyone explain our attacking strategy?

Mark Fitzgerald was needed at centre back today as Carlow found huge spaces there especially in the first half. Michael Kiely was needed at wing forward or full forward. He played wing back (not centre back as Gavin Fives/Rory Furlong played there) as a minor seven years ago for some games before moving to the forward line where he changed those games against Tipp and Limerick. It was a crazy decision to play him there today and it went as expected. If he was playing wing forward when he started that run in the first half it was a goal as he would have been 30 yards further forward.

The only people talking about getting rid of Queally are the ones saying "it's madness how people want to get rid of him". Nobody thinks sacking him is the right call. But his target was promotion, that's in black and white. That performance today won't beat any other team in this division. That's the issue, bad and all as the result was the performance was even worse.