Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

Yes I'm not sure what the business model for them is in that fuel station with the sorter machine as it's unlikely people would be using the high value vouchers against purchases within the convenience shop part of the business for a large weekly shop. Perhaps they are using it as a way to dispose of cash on the premises and then saving the banking fees they would incur if they had to bring the cash to the bank.

I really dislike this scheme , in my local SuperValu the one machine is not working about 75% of the time which means I end up carrying a bag full of returns around the shop and back home again .

I reckon 5 of the last 6 times I brought returns to the shop I returned home with them.

Machine is out of service for some unknown reason.

Machine is full.

Machine is being emptied, told to call back in 5 mins , 20 mins later still not back in service.

One time there was a young fella with a couple of bags of stuff he had picked up, half of them weren't accepted and it was slow going, after 10 mins I gave up waiting.

Yesterday the machine would not accept any bottle I had , I was putting them in too fast according to the error , it did not matter how slowly I tried.

Nothing against this scheme in principle and maybe I am unlucky but it surely has to be more convenient. I normally walk to the shop but if I have returns it would make more sense to drive.

Any rejects I have get left beside the machine.

I am hamstered out of it at that stage.

No longer my problem.

Oh well. The way I see it I walked passed a perfectly good bin that has not rejected anything for decades.

At the point the machine rejects something it is no longer my problem. Conscience clear.

Yes ridiculous. From return.ie FAQs:

To me this does leave it open for Dunnes to give store credit. Maybe someone who works in retail can give a reason why cash change is not offered here. It seems to get all cash for your voucher you must come to the till with nothing in hand looking like a tight arse not buying anything and clogging up the queue for everyone else.

Perhaps to get your oranges you could pay for them then get the total cash value of your deposit voucher in a separate transaction. They could well make you queue up again 😂. Shop gets a sale out of it. Gombeenery wins the day.

IBAN refunds would of course solve this scenario but that would be in the interests of the customer. Thats not Re-Turn's MO.

Here we go.

So these massive price increases have absolutely nothing to do with the loss of income from the loss of aluminium cans and plastic bottles from their collections?

Yourself and a couple more seem to have a total inability to apply logic to situations involving DRS.

BTW. Go back over this thread particularly the start, very little of the issues that were raised prior to this coming into force have been addressed, particularly that of people who shop from home with limited mobility. We are expected to wait until the magical date of June 2025 before we are given proper statistics and plan of how to deal with all of the issues brought up.

Apparently Dunnes will give you a cash refund but only at the customer service desk.

That probably makes them compliant with the rules.

Dunnes Stores

https://search.app/UjC5u3La7aeJcEsS6

Short piece on DRS on the 6pm news.

Comical Ali was more believeable for his outlook on events………..

I'm alright jack is the attitude you've displayed throughout this thread with very little empathy for those less well off than you.

The CEO for ReScam was on with Anton Savage earlier. I recommend everyone to listen back to him.

https://www.goloudplayer.com/episodes/re-turn-marks-one-year-in-operat-NWJjMzlmOTllYmI1YmU0NzJiMDhiOTIzZWRkOWYzMDk%3D

One interesting thing he said was, when Anton asked him about the reducing the reliance on plastic, he said "thats not within our scope". He also said "Plastic is really good".

There won't be any unilateral move to reduce plastic use in Ireland.

The change, while slow, is coming from Brussels.

EU Parliament backs clampdown on single-use plastic packaging | Reuters

https://search.app/zuoJGRxsPrnpZWoK7

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/aldi-ireland-launches-new-savings-34602281

Aldi's new DRS 'savings card' allows customers to load their vouchers onto the card and keep all their deposited returns in the same place. Available in all 163 Aldi stores across Ireland, the card can also be topped up at checkouts, making it easier for shoppers to save money while supporting the environment.

Anyone know if you will still have to take vouchers in store to load this card?

In that case I thought this was already available in Dunnes.

Lidl already have an app. They could allow card top ups without going to the till. First to do this and stop forcing customers in store / to the till will make more in good will from customers loading their card only.

Bit late replying to this, but no, they can't force credit. It can be used against your shopping or a cash refund. They're the only 2 official options, everything else is a store concocted idea. I was in a similar situation recently, the scam voucher had more than what I was buying in Dunnes, and I got the rest back in cash. But I did go to the customer service desk.

Remember folks, if the stores are doing something that makes it look like it's a benefit to you, it's not, it's a benefit to them. Re-Scam is ensuring stores are doing their own scams now too.

I had to get a lighter so had to use the CS desk. I wonder if you used it in the self service would you get the money back? Might try it some day.

Some stores claim they were not aware of the manual return option. But like you said, it's the min wage workers that get the brunt of the anger. Every single staff of every shop I've spoken to (I fix retail stuff) hate it, and managers saying that complaints have quadrupled mainly because of the scam. Of course, they're not allowed officially state that, the suits won't allow it.