Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

fafy · 07-01-2025 06:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122922957#Comment_122922957

The Axa Energia offer is still available:

24 hour rate is still 22.46 inc vat

https://www.energia.ie/exclusive-axa-promotion-offer

Cyrus · 07-01-2025 07:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030503#Comment_123030503

it’s linked earlier in this thread it was a deal for spar / bwg employees but anyone could sign up online don’t think they will offer over the phone tho.

MojoMaker · 08-01-2025 09:03AM

Since that 2024 Bwg offer the wholesale price of electricity is a bit cheaper so hopefully Flogas and the others come up with competitive 2025 offers that actually try to tempt customers to switch over.

Sleamhain · 08-01-2025 10:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122949201#Comment_122949201

Not necessarily no point changing supplier for FIT, but the change in terms allows a break in contract without penalty.

I was able to put my usage into energypal.ie and see that the reduction in FIT actually made me worse off - all things considered based on my own import/export - so was able to change to the BG EV plan instead and save about €100 per year without penalty.

EDIT - I was also informed that there is a 30 day window to change without penalty. Was notified 28 days ago, so the window may still be open for another few days for others too!

keno-daytrader · 08-01-2025 12:38PM

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Liam2021 · 11-01-2025 04:19PM

I have been looking at different plans as contract is due to expire with Energia EV plan.

Anyone have a similar experience, any advise is welcome. My biggest concern is the limited limited EV hours to charge the car and the 10kw battery and run all the appliances at the cheap rate.

pad406 · 11-01-2025 05:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123044805#Comment_123044805

Based on my usage over night I'm using about 11.4kWh per hour. Mostly it's battery and car, so over the 3hr window I have there's usually 8.5kWh going into the battery (I've 10.4kWh battery, SOC is 15% at this time of year), balance for the car, so 25ish going into the car, balance house usage.

Battery is usually charged after 2h 10m.

I don't need to charge the car every night, so appliances are usually on the other nights

randombar · 13-01-2025 04:48PM

Hi Lads, how do I get the welcome credit from pinergy? Is there a way to go about it or is it automatic?

fafy · 13-01-2025 05:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123044805#Comment_123044805

I’m on the 4 hour EV Energia plan(EV Smart Drive), we have a 15kw battery, and we have 3 EV’s, heatpump, its doable, for the 3 EV’s, but the rate outside the 4 hour window is quite high, but its not an issue for about 10 + months of the year, as battery is big enough to power everything during 6am to 2am slot. I also exceeded the 1000 kw limit on my last bill, but the rate only slightly goes up from 7.54 inc vat, to 8.67 inc vat.

I looked at the 3 hour window tarriffs, but i passed, as i need the extra flexibility of 4 hours at a low rate.

If the battery is at its minimum of 10%, it charges up to full in around 3 hours, so i time washing machines from around 5am, when battery is full, i wouldn’t be able to do that on a 3 hour window tarriff, while charging an EV throughout.

The other variable is the Energia export rate, which is reducing from 24 cent to 20cent from January 13th.

randombar · 13-01-2025 11:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123052338#Comment_123052338

I'm thinking of going the other way myself but depends on your connection.

I've a 16kva so:

20kwh battery + 24kwh heat pump (cold night) + 12kwh for one ev + 2 or 3 kwh for house load = 58kwh

In 3 hrs I could maybe get 51kwh maybe 54kwh.

That's the very cold nights, which are few and far between and probably wouldn't be driving the next day anyway so not a big deal if the ev hasn't charged.

Did the sums there and based on moving only half of my fourth hour consumption into the third hour I'm saving a good whack:

fafy · 14-01-2025 02:15PM

I only have 12kva connection, i did look at 16kva but the last time i checked, it was 2k ish to upgrade via ESBN, plus there are other costs with an electrician,

https://www.esbnetworks.ie/docs/default-source/publications/esb-networks-dac-statement-of-charges.pdf
you also have a bigger battery, so the 3 hour window may well work for you.

randombar · 17-01-2025 04:30PM

Hi Lads, after a lot of pain I signed up for the cooline ev rate just about.

The weird thing is that its a 30 day rolling contract.

Not sure if thats good or bad as I'm guessing they can change all the rates even in a contract anyway.

Are other people on the pinergy one in the same boat?

fafy · 17-01-2025 05:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123066968#Comment_123066968

are they still giving €100 sign up credit ? I noticed its still on webpage, but no obvious place to apply for Cooline Tariff:

https://pinergy.ie/pinergy-lifestyle-for-cooline/

randombar · 17-01-2025 07:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123067097#Comment_123067097

Had to ring them, hassle etc. etc.

fafy · 17-01-2025 07:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123067511#Comment_123067511

So, just checking, they are still doing the €100 signup credit ?

I did consider moving onto it, but the 4 hour Energia cheap rate window suits our needs much better

Its unfortunately probably inevitable, that the Pinergy market leading 25cent export rate, will reduce soon

randombar · 20-01-2025 09:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123067540#Comment_123067540

I am.

I'm guessing the pinergy rate will decrease all right but fingers crossed it's not for another while yet.

tlaavtech · 31-01-2025 09:34AM

Got a letter from FloGas telling me my community rate was finished in March and I would be going onto the standard rate.

Are there still community rates available from FloGas?

Everything has changed on our electricity usage profile in the last few months (New solar, extra EV, new smart meter) so historical data is of no use to decide on a new plan - I'd just be happy to stay on the current rates for now and then look next year when I know the usage. I want to stay on day/night for the moment.

Stallingrad · 31-01-2025 10:12AM

Have an EV arriving next week (50kw battery) so might be time to switch.

Currently with EI at a flat rate of 31c

Standing charge is 63c per day = €230.00

3,300kwh pa usage

4.3kw solar array getting 20c Microgen

My head is melted with the various options, any suggestions on who to go with?

tlaavtech · 31-01-2025 10:41AM

I went on to Bonkers.ie and it is advising that Electric Ireland "Energy Save Dual 30%" (I have gas also) seems to have only marginally more expensive rates than the FloGas community rates, but the FIT is better by 1c, so that seems to be the way to go for me.

EDIT: I can't find reference to this plan on the EI web-site, so I will try go through Bonkers and see what happens!

CMOTDibbler · 31-01-2025 10:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123119543#Comment_123119543

Use energypal.ie, much better than bonkers and the like. You need your HDF file from ESB Networks and it will work out which is the best one for you.

Often the best EV or night rate isn't the best one for you, since what you use during the day can easily outweigh that usage.

I'm with Energia - day rate ~24c/kWh and night ~14c/kWh including VAT. There's a peak rate between 5pm and 7pm which is a few cents more, but it doesn't really impinge.

I prefer to charge my car when it gets down to around 20% SoC, so a decent rate from 11pm to 8am suits me better.

tlaavtech · 31-01-2025 10:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123119709#Comment_123119709

The historic data is of no use since I now have an extra EV,solar panels, and the smart meter is only in a week! Because of this, I figure I just need to go for the lowest Day/Night rate for a year and then do a real comparison next year when everything has settled down.

CMOTDibbler · 31-01-2025 11:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123119718#Comment_123119718

In that case, that Energia plan looks about the best although I haven't checked for a while. A lot of those that have low rates for a few hours at night have pretty high daytime rates. I wanted to find a balance. Charging your car with 40kWh for €5.60 instead of €4 isn't significant if your cooker/shower/kettle is going to cost you a tenner more.

MojoMaker · 31-01-2025 11:23AM

Never forget that these plans are designed to yield the most income for the supplier, and not the cheapest costs for the consumer.

loyatemu · 31-01-2025 11:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123119718#Comment_123119718

we have an EV and are on BG's EV smart plan. If you have solar panels, your daytime costs are going to be fairly small for much of the year so the EV charging will make up a significant amount of your grid usage.

You do need to look at how much charge you can expect to get into the car in 3/4 hours though. We do modest mileage and 3 hours charge every second night keeps the battery topped up. If you're doing a couple hundred km every day you'll probably need to charge for 6 hours every night.

crl84 · 31-01-2025 01:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123119674#Comment_123119674

How many kms are would you be expecting to do each day and each week in the EV?

damestreet007 · 31-01-2025 02:05PM

anyone know if energia axa offer is fixed rate or variable?

tlaavtech · 31-01-2025 02:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123120247#Comment_123120247

Typically 150km in the i3 and 250km in the Megane each week, not including the occasional longer trip around the country.

MojoMaker · 31-01-2025 03:34PM

Just had a quick scan of the Energia website - quite disappointed in their standard plans on offer at the moment. Not that the Smart plans are much better, but really those d/n rates for Joe Citizen don't seem competitive at all, at all.

Paul Kiernan · 31-01-2025 05:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123120734#Comment_123120734

Isn't their 26c/12c day night rate the best available out there? Who's cheaper?

CMOTDibbler · 31-01-2025 06:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123121090#Comment_123121090

Yeah, that's the one I'm on. Energypal had it at the top of their list based on my usage. But having a look around, couldn't find anything better on a day/night rate. Bar the BWG one, but I couldn't access that.

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