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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    I wonder what type of generators and back up systems the likes of Pat McDonagh has. Water harvesting systems also? Could do with something like that for important infrastructure like hospitals, doctors, maybe even schools? He had full service at his Plazas in blackout areas and they were mobbed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭mikewest


    This is a question for the knowledgeable types of here. Were there any reports or evidence of tornados or whirlwinds forming in this storm. I have seen a mini "tornado" form in a hurricane and remove the fence line and every object in its path behind the house I was staying in . There were local media reports of many mini tornadoes at the time.

    Would this account for the sometimes straight line paths of destruction we have seen and the fact that some trees are snapped in half while a very short distance away weak structures like old farm sheds damaged in storm Darragh are untouched. Or is this something normal in severe storms?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    I think there has to have been a sting jet or mini tornadoes or something. Parts of Longford were hammered while other areas hadn't much impact at all, and the strongest gusts recorded at the nearest stations in the area were 100-110kmh which, while unusual for the location, would not do the damage that was done there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,413 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭Rougies


    I would imagine that is due to a "domino effect". Once one tree falls onto the next it will cause much more force for the "recipient" tree both due to the extra weight and now they are essentially two trees taking the wind force but with only one trunk standing. This tends to happen in a straight line along the direction of the wind. The first trees to fall are usually on poor roots due waterlogged or rocky ground, and the chain reaction spreads downwind.

    I've seen the aftermath of similar treefalls a good few times in Coillte forests over my years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I think that would be obvious though. It wasn't trees knocking other trees. Just a relatively wide path of destruction in one direction.

    I have seen a lot of trees snapped in half instead of uprooted. Amazing scenes really.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    It does seem odd that right away on Friday, it was being reported that records were broken for sustained gusts over a 10 minute period and just for strongest gust. The ESB said close to a million properties lost power and it was the worst they have dealt with…all of this talk about it being the worst but it feels like the interest in it as a story didn't even make it 3 days. Stories about the storm fell to 5th or 6th most read on the RTE website. The approach from Government + the fact our leaders were travelling as the fallout from the storm was happening and some of the councils response simply equated to other storms rather than an exceptional natural disaster. It feels like, if anything it is being downplayed by everyone but those who were in its direct path…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    We were really lucky down here in Cork but Storm Ophelia taught me a few valuable lessons. During this time we were out of power for a week at least. Big lesson learned , every household in the countryside should have a generator switch installed. Most farm stores carry 6kw generators that can be bought very quickly in power outages but you need a generator switch to work them which requires getting an electrician to fit one. I would like to see the likes of SEAI have grants available for installing Generator switches so in future scenarios like this all the home owner has to do is go out and buy an generator and hook it up and they'll have heat and power in a matter of hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Yeah maybe not, but not just "knocking", also the force of another tree leaning on it, essentially doubling the force of the wind on one tree's trunk could snap it? Just a theory. I don't think tornadoes could have been a factor, they couldn't have formed in those conditions. But possibly some stingjet madness alright.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    There's no doubt about the downplaying of the severity of this natural disaster in the media. For those of us really badly affected, it's hard to comprehend.

    I honestly couldn't believe my ears when radio news reports on the Sunday told no tales of the devastation in parts of the west. It was reported on as if it was just a regular winter storm. Second or third story in the news.

    One factor in that "downplaying" is simply the fact that from a Dublin-centric point of view, it only affected one city - and sure they're just a bunch of hippies, and the rest of them are boggers that don't wash anyway.

    The second factor is the phase of our political cycle. They don't want to report (particularly RTE who've just been showered with extra govt millions) on anything that might paint the government response in a bad light.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭TTLF
    save the trouble and jazz it up


    I will say the downplaying sucks. Even from a Dublin POV there was a lot of damages in my area alone, it just didn't strike the power so 'all is fine and dandy'.

    My heart goes out to those still without electricity, or had bad damages on their property, you're all so strong <3

    Here's some photo's I collected over the last few days of the storm in Dublin

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    If there is no electricity in the local area then their is no power to pump the water, the pump is only about a km away and without any storm it stops working approx ones a month for whatever reason



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFSdnD5Onft/?igsh=dGl3Ym5mdnhqdzBr

    Small bit of the damage

    How do you embed Instagram vids?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭pauldry


    This storm was the worst I've experienced in the West or Northwest of Ireland along with the Stephens Day storm of 1998. There was a terrible storm too the day after I was born on 11th January 1974 so naturally I don't remember that and 1961 but 21st Century this is easily the worst one. These 4. Maybe Christmas Eve 1997 too.

    Of course Ophelia and Darwin are comparible down South but there's been nothing here like Eowyn in the 21st Century.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I think many of the reports were hampered by travel, as well. Fallen trees, roads impassible. No way to contact locals due to phones and mobile networks being down. It took a good few couple of days for the major stories to emerge, especially with no electricity. Then a lot of presenters are still on their winter holidays, and playing 'best of' shows in the meantime. So the coverage has been restricted there too.

    The last paragraph is spot on. It's all about the money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Kutebride


    I can't imagine getting up in the dark and not be able to switch on a light and get your day started to go to work, go to.school (if your school.is open) and that's just my own daily habit. I can't think about the elderly less feeble in the cold.

    I know family and extended family entering Day 8 without utilities. Very few have generators.

    Its heartbreaking.

    This must be the longest running post-storm thread and I fear who long this will.go.on for everyone without power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Gizit


    We were without power for 3 days and that was long enough. The house was freezing. The temperature in the house got down to 12.5°. There are some in the area that still haven't got power back.

    The whole situation still feels raw and national and local government need to hang their heads in shame. There was no mobile data so we had no access to the Internet. Like many others we had to drive out of the area to log the fault and get a hot meal. Was hoping local radio would provide some information that would be useful but it was all just general "we're working hard to get services reconnected blah blah blah, check with powercheck to see the latest info". The local Supermacs plaza saved the day providing power points to charge batteries and hot food, no Internet service though so had to travel further out for that.

    Community hubs were eventually set up on Tuesday which in my mind was 2 days too late, that should have been up and running over the weekend.

    Will definitely have gas heaters and gas cooker in for next winter.

    Even now TD's are just telling people what they already know like what areas still have no power and what areas have no water. I'm pretty sure people are well aware of these facts. Nothing about the financial support being offered. I feel they are using the information being given out as a PR exercise for them.

    I'm angry for myself and everyone else who suffered last weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭crusd


    For people checking the powercheck app for their power return time, dont bother, its a random number generator. Loads of people who had a date of 5th of February with their power back and loads more who have had the date shift 1 or 2 days every day all week. They are clearing loads of faults. Down from about 2,200 Wednesday bight to about 1500 last night. But the timing on the powercheck app bears absolutely no relation to what is happening on the ground. Its only usefulness is in knowing if you are part of a known fault



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    That poor woman on RTE last night who's entire roof came off. Solid brick just ripped clean off. Has to have been a stingjet/tornado.

    There's a gofund me for anyone who saw it and wants to donate, she has no house insurance as family home that's been there over a century.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,605 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Power gone again overnight. Hopefully won't be out too long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Aero resistance squares with speed. It's the same reason that cars efficiency plummets the faster you go. So when the speed doubles the power(or drag for cars) quadruples.

    Earthquakes scaling is completely different. An earthquake of 8 is over 1 million times more powerful than an earthquake of 4 on the richter scale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,875 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    I honestly couldn't see how that roof could ever have been securely attached to the old walls, which seem to be made of stone and rubble, not brick.

    Maybe I'm thinking of a different house?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I've linked it above. I'm no builder/engineer but I've donated as it's shocking regardless.

    It is +100 years old according to the report so who knows how it was put together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    So many still without power around me. The ESB seemed to patch the "main" country roads but didn't go down all the little side roads. Day 8 for them now.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Not a great picture but this is a tough old sinewy willow tree at the bottom of our garden. It's very hard to snap the branches on willows but the storm tried it's best.

    IMG_20250130_145724.jpg

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭davehey79


    Power back here in South Leitrim as of last night and i have to say a big fair play to the ESB crews for finding the faults(s) there was the IR enabled copters and 2 crews about going field to field (bog / marsh land). Power flickered about 4.45 for a split second on my way home (herself called excited) but on arrival was still no power. Took the dog for a walk before it got dark and as i came back to the house could see the LED lights in a spare room on and green and was highly confused and not comprehending it was back. Herself was in the living room doing star jumps of joy out the window at me. Was day 7 getting it back and was damn near enough days to be out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Hi everyone. Hopefully we all got through this the best we could. Power just back on this morning on the 8th day. Just got out of the shower. Bliss utter bliss.

    We were lucky to be honest. Between the log burner and gas BBQ and camping stove we ate.

    Lots to discuss in the aftermath but thoughts with people still without power at the moment.

    Leitrim



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    thing with the community hubs if they didn't have power or water they could be in same boat.

    I know our local community centres didn't start offering services until our power came on.

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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