Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

Arrests are being made, AGS are working with PSNI, it needs toughing up, to be stricter

An Iranian man was arrested at Belfast Airport, who posed as a Ukrainian and appeared to have travelled from Barcelona to Dublin.

His Ukrainian passport was counterfeit and had several stamps to appear as if the man was well-travelled, which might suggest it had been prepared by a criminal gang.

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2024/12/05/hundreds-detained-in-northern-ireland-trying-to-travel-into-britain-after-crossing-irish-border/

If you are suggesting Covid, then I'm not sure you understand the graph. Why would the travel restrictions of Covid bias travel in one direction and not the other? We would expect the overall volume of travel both into and out of the country to go down equally.

But please have a go at explaining what you mean if that is not it.

I'm talking about figures that have been widely discussed in Irish media over the last year.

I'm not telling you that aliens landed in my back garden and expecting you to believe it.

None of us are entitled to treat each other with open contempt. We have no entitlement full stop, I'm not sure why you feel entitled to anything.

You're holding me to a standard where you're demanding links be posted (I will never post a link to anything in the CA forum FYI) to prove what I'm saying yet you're happy to shout misinformation without posting any links to support your own position.

There's little point to continuing this conversation, you can PM me if you want.

Drop in the ocean, but good to see none the less.

I dont accept that at all. Lets say you live in an authoritarian regime and you have been denied a passport or you can't use it safely in your home country, why can't you show the real one here? Why can't you get a family memeber to send a photo of your real one? There are valid reasons for not having a geniune passport, but only in dangerous countries, not Ireland. I can't think of any valid reasons for showing no passport at all at Dublin airport. It is a lot better to show your fake passport than to hide it where it can be reused illegally.

Yes no documents or fake documents but not "unvetted" 😅

I feel sorry for them but this country went beyond the call of duty, it was madness the benefits we gave them but that's not on them but I guarantee some bad actors came to Ireland specifically for the benefits.

What's happening right now is the government is trying to force them out and make room for IPAs

In Clonmel they are building modular homes for the Ukrainians but you would think the government would put a hold on all of this and see what happens with this potential Trump/Putin meeting but instead it's full steam ahead because it's an excuse to think this is for the Ukrainians but this will be used for IPAs

The local community is very welcoming of Ukrainians in general but when everything is built the government will effectively have their foot in the door and can do anything with the modular homes…

Link here:

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-investigating-after-nine-men-discovered-in-freight-container-at-rosslare-europort/a345176427.html

Eight have been deemed to be in good health, while one man is receiving further medical assessment at a hospital in the south-east of the country for non-life threatening injuries.

8 of them can/should be arrested and deported back to France this evening then. The last can likewise be sent back when he's medically cleared.

They sought to bypass the controls and checks by hiding out in a container. This means they obviously have no respect for our laws and may be hiding other things/history that are unlikely to benefit our country.

Straight back. No need for expensive (to the taxpayer) and drawn-out "reviews" and appeals.

Of course, that's unlikely to be what happens, unless Jim O'Callaghan decides he wants to set out an early marker in his term as Minister.

The bleeding heart liberals will claim that they only acted out of desperation or some such

Once we get rid of the american corporations out of our island we won't need to charter a flight. The immigrants/asylum beepers/whoeverthef**k will be chartering their own flights to get out of here. The $cam will be over and we can finally get back to looking after ourselves.

Mod: Warned and banned for breach of forum charter

You post a clarification of your original one first.

Your post is all over the place talking about net migration then Irish migration. Which is it and post a proper link with reference to where that graph is from ?

You could have drawn that yourself , certainly don't have the description correct .

The figures in question have been publicly discussed at length for quite some time. To my mind they are something so obviously understood that asking for links as verification to me felt like an unnecessary request made in a spirit not associated with good faith discussion.

Had I made an outlandish claim that had never been part of the wider discussion around this topic then a request for verification would be reasonable. In this case I discussed an issue that has been discussed at length both in the media and on this platform for some time, therefore I judged the request made to have been made in bad faith.

I responded in a polite manner as I am doing with you currently. However this feels like we're going some distance off topic and some of what you're saying feels to me to be veering towards commentary on me as an individual which isn't, to my mind an inviting path to go any further along. I'm sure everyone here would prefer to discuss the thread topic than continue this particular thought experiment.

Thanks for your comments but I don't have anything more to say on this topic at this time.