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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    The Dublin centric government needs to be moved. Outrageous that they've been so absent in the face of our greatest natural disaster. They were preoccupied with procedural matters that could have been parked for a week.

    No leadership and hardly any effort from the national broadcaster to understand the devastation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭quokula


    If you've got a proper passive house it doesn't need a chimney, in fact the existence of a chimney would seriously impact its effectiveness. The whole point is that it won't rapidly get cold and can continue to be comfortable in the absence setting fire to things and producing toxic smoke.

    Common sense is not to double down on all the behaviours that cause climate change and extreme weather in the face of extreme weather. That's the opposite of common sense. The common sense approach would be to focus on more A rated housing with better insulation, and to invest more in solar panels backed up by EV batteries with V2L. Many people in more modern houses have been living comfortably through the power cuts thanks to these technologies.

    Obviously it's not something everyone can do overnight but it's something that should be worked towards as a society, rather than regressing backwards to a state that's only going to result in more bigger storms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,932 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    The synoptic reminds me in a way of 3rd January 2012. NCEP reanalysis resolution is poor back then with a lack of data and a lot of interpolation to fill in the gaps but it's the best we have to go by besides old Met Office reports and maybe old newspapers but I currently don't have access to the archive. All the digitised data in the public domain for wind only goes back to 1940s and 1950s at earliest.

    UK Met say in the daily weather reports that Malin Head and Belmullet had average wind speeds of force 7 and force 8 at 1800 from a WNW direction. The disaster is said to have happened at 2000. It blew over very quickly. Malin Head pressure was 997mb at 1800 on the 30th and back up to 1002mb by 0100 on the 31st. Some reports have expressed the wind was so sudden giving me the sense that maybe some kind of stingjet was involved but what Met Office say would make you think it was just a standard windy episode from an enhanced North Atlantic jet stream with low pressure systems to the north.

    The rapid development of a depression southward of Iceland caused high winds and gales on various parts of our coasts and conditions remained rather rough on the 30th & 31st - Met Office on January 1925 report.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    That is outrageous. This whole indifference to Connaught is cromwellian.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,996 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I'd kill for a few slabs of turf briquettes. Killing those off was yet another fu​ck you Ireland from Eamon gobshi​te Ryan.

    'People might be reading too much into it': Eamon Ryan suggests peat briquettes won't be banned

    The smoky fuel ban is due to come into being later this year.

    Lying wan​ker.

    In other news… Fibre connection was lost on Friday, reported it to some barely intelligible person in India. Enquired again to be told 8 days estimate to fix.

    And anpost is down and out for the count also, I have several packages that are sitting around in Dublin instead of being sent to the local PO and being delivered.

    "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds"

    Whoops, wrong country, my bad.

    What will the total economic cost of this come to?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭pureza


    I assume your Esb is out

    Thankfully I have mine and can assure you there is extensive coverage of this storms affects on both the national broadcaster and virgin

    The storm has caused the ESB to essentially have to rebuild a third of the country’s energy infrastructure in 2 weeks

    Expecting it in a matter of days or hours is highly unrealistic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    Won't be surprised if we see a few insurance companies going bust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    The almost MAGA-esque ignorance by some commentators on the East Coast towards anyone beyond the Dublin/Kildare/Meath Catchment areas is shocking and is a sad reflection of how far this country has fallen. The virtue-signalling on "Im ok in my A-rated home in Carlow/ I was able to charge my EV at home/ You should all have generators if you "choose" to live in Rural Ireland" is absolutely deplorable and highlights how polarised this country and government has become.

    I wonder what the reaction will be when a few thousand tractors arrive in Dublin to block the M50 for a few days in protest at the abysmal lack of response from our Government.?

    Where are the journalists to cover the disaster to create awareness? We have entire communities ringing around hotels and hostels to see if they can be accommodated, only to be either charged full rates or to be told no.

    That's not an exaggeration. Entire areas are decimated. Those families who ignored the Greens push to get rid of their stoves are glad they did so now, but a small stove can only do so much and if you don't have a gas cooker, you're bunched. Every camping stove in the West is sold out. I've had to move my family to Kildare to my father's house as our place is too cold and my special needs son needs electricity for his health requirements.

    Rural Irelands most powerful lobby are our Farmers. I think it's high time we brought some of this pain and suffering East, to focus some minds in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭pauly58


    In West Cork we have had the power out three times in 24 hrs, luckily , just out for a few hours each time. The Government response has been less than pathetic, there should have been generators at the pumping stations, water tankers going around to towns, meals on wheels to the old folk. This is a real state of emergency.

    We're used to power cuts, we were out for two weeks in 2010, we have two generators & a change over switch but I feel for elderly people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    That's what we always do. we ran 3 baths last night.

    Not good that ESB are running out of poles because there are plenty of poles down or damaged in our area.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,377 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    The water service has been poor. Surely it is easier to send a truck with a generator to the pumping station than have water tankers driving around? In this day and age you could have battery trucks which could provide power for a period then swap it each day and take the battery off to be charged elsewhere.

    Likewise there could have been a plan for hubs, like the GAA club on the news last night. If every district had a hub with a generator then people could go there and meals on wheels type services could originate there. These type of community organisations like the GAA will do what they can, but a plan would have been nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    I was listening to something on this recently. No obligation to pay staff if they don't work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    What kind of generator do you have? I have a generator but wasn't much good this time or the last time. The internet was down regardless of the power supply and the people who built the house opted for integrated kitchen appliances. I think we need a re-think on the layout of the kitchen in future. Luckily we have a wood burning stove in the living room. If we didn't, we would be in dire straits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    How do you think meals on wheels will work if they have no power? Where are all these generators to come from? Are we to have thousands of water tankers in a yard on the off chance areas have none?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭crusd


    I know people are frustrated with ever changing power return times. The thing is though, as the network starts to get repaired, the number of known faults is growing not shrinking. An outage affecting 1,500 homes might turn out to have 5 or more sub faults. As of now there are over 2,000 known faults on the network. That's 2,000 locations where crews will need to assess and repair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Don't forget to change over from the mains to generator



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    That happened in my father's house twice fixed 1 fault and bang went we were very lucky and back Saturday afternoon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭crusd


    Thing is, it seems many of the pumping stations cannot easily be connected to a generator supposedly due to the nature of the connection. So you would need to divert an ESB crew from an outage to connect the pumping station to the generator. In some cases its a call to be made - leave them working on the power outage that may also be impacting a lot of homes and businesses power supply or divert them specifically to the pumping station. Are they getting the priority call right in all cases, almost certainly not. But its not as easy as just plug in the generator.

    On a separate note, Irish Water, ESB Networks and Vodafone were all on the media this morning telling people with no power, internet, phone or water service to check online or ring 1800 numbers for updates. The spokespeople were clueless other than read statements



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭pureza


    one practical thing government could do is give tax relief or a grant towards generator purchase for homes

    Min 4 to 6 kva units

    About a grand a house,40 or 60 million euro’s plus a maintenance contract on them

    Common sense like



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Deeec


    There are many people living in A rated homes without electricity since the storm who are feeling their homes get colder and colder as the days go on and are regretting not putting in a stove for back up heat in a power outage. I was talking to one couple yesterday who only moved into their new home last year that were very glad to come and sit at the stove in their parents house. They are regretting listening to their architect who said the heat pump was the only source of heat they needed.

    Also something a builder told me is that insulation deteriorates over time. The warmth in an newly built A rated home will not be the same in 15 years time as it is now. He reckons its a problem that is coming down the line and hes seen it in homes already. He made sure to include a stove when he built his own house recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,371 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    I thought that stoves are not allowed to be put into new homes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭jj880


    Would make you think twice about electric cars and the heating systems pushed by the Greens. The reports of the ESB running out of poles and transformers are shambolic. If the ESB higher ups aren't arsed to stock up for repairs after a country wide red warning storm I'll be keeping my back boiler stove and gas hob.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,845 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Nevermind the fact that all the insulation and air tightness and Mechanical Heat recovery ventilation in the world isn’t worth a shite if all that retained heat in the house gets sucked outside in a few seconds when someone opens the hall door on windy day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Deeec


    I have no idea of the regs. The builder put a stove in his house anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    When all this settles down, there needs to a serious examination of how the ESB management have failed to maintain their supply network properly. I spoke to one of the 'heroes' yesterday, one of the repair crews who carry out the repairs to faults on the line. He explained how the ESB want to maximise profits and have a totally inadequate maintenance budget. They don't what the expense of employing permanent and expensive crew. It is far cheaper for them to employ outside crews on a temporary basis to carry out repairs to lines after storms. He said that many of the recent faults occurred because of 'obvious' over-hanging trees, rotten poles etc; facts well known to management but ignored by them. The management are so adept at Public relations however. There's always a well-spoken representative to explain what the ESB are doing, with no mention of what they are not doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 HypoC


    I genuinely thought that if workplace made the decision to close then staff should be paid - they just got a text told not to come in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,996 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    How about 150,000 of us descend on Leinster house with tin mugs and bowls and repetitively chant; "pleas sir, can we have some more" while holding them aloft for the foreign media to relay to the wider world. Embarrass them into acting and getting off their green electric everything high-horse.

    MM sucking up to foreign entities instead of being here is inexcusable. Excuse my while I just pop out for a moment to suck up to some genocidal murderous shi​ts, they are a lot more important than you lot, after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,377 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I accept that, Irish Water sends tankers because they are good with pipes and they are not electricians. But the lesson for this is that every pumping station should have whatever isolation etc that is required that a reserve supply can be plugged in and have some people with sufficient training to do that without having to call in the ESB.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Bocadilloo


    So Dara Calleary plans to be on the ground today; 4 days after the storm. Only an imbecile or someone living in D4 would not comprehend how bad things are. This is the second time this lad is off to a shaky start as a minister. He wouldn't inspire optimism.

    And of course Mehole has to be going abroad as we can't be seen to upset anyone in Europe



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