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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Fascinating thought process that leads to the conclusion that city and town dwellers are more supportive of their community than rural dwellers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭I says


    It’s more the norm than unusual now with these storms and loss of power. During storm daragh we lost power for 4days while those in the village had their power back after 10hrs. No one gave a flying fcuk about our predicament, it’s just the way it is. We knew we were way down the pecking order to get power restored, bought generator to keep some normality and delighted with it.
    Get on with it, it’s out off your hands when the power comes back all you can do is be prepared for the next outage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,744 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    If you can show the property owner is negligent maintaining their trees, then you may have a case or argument for the owner to act. If it can be shown the trees are rotten at the core, structurally unsound and present an unacceptable risk likely to cause damage, then the owner would be obliged to take action or risk liability for any damage caused to your property. Otherwise the situation is as you described it and you need to ensure your home insurance will cover potential damage incurred or the scope of what it covers (FDBs home insurance policy as an example). Trees can cause other damage due to roots ingress on your property causing heave or ground subsidence. Due to the fungal attack causing dieback, ash trees present an unacceptable risk in my opinion and if you have them growing by the roadside, you should get them cut down.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    There are plenty of people that move to Dublin because they want to live in a city. How many under the age of 35 want to move to a rural area? Hardly anyone.

    I know loads of young people who love living in Dublin. I could count on one hand the numbers that want to move rural and those that do want to make the rural move to be closer to family, but not until they are older.

    Farms do indeed provide essential services to the population of ireland, but we have too many of them.

    90% of beef produced here is exported. We over produce, hugely, and its all subsidised.

    Climate targets and an economic downturn will reduce the number of farms, but now is the time for rural ireland to diversify away from just farming, in order to secure its future.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Deeec


    People who were reared in the country usually want to return and rear their children in the country - I don't see this changing. It's what your used to really. Personally you couldn't pay me to live in a city or town box with a postage stamp garden.

    Anyway we need to get back on topic and that is the storm aftermath



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭Xander10


    I think you know the point he is making and choosing to ignore it.

    I know two couples that moved out of Dublin to nearby county.

    One lives in a nice estate with all amenities and services nearby.

    The other chose to build a house in the middle of nowhere, an endless potholes winding "road" to visit them. Kids have to be driven to school and everywhere.

    Both are without power. I feel sorry for both of them but a lot less so for the second couple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Yep, though it will be more difficult for people to go back to a rural community in the future, if farming isnt replaced. Thats really my point.

    And with reference to the storm, rural and west coast are always going to be worse hit than the east coast, due to natural weather patterns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,622 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    The main over riding point to be taken from this storm is one we have been making on this forum for 20 years. Met Eireann just don't have enough weather stations dotted around the country.

    Now that I live out in the sticks, after I get a Genny, I'll be getting a weather station to go with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    This is very true. Hopefully people's eyes will be opened as to the risk of relying just in the grid and also that government will make all the low hanging frruit moves to harden the grid. Plenty of common sense moves to make.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    Milk and other subsidies are gone. What subsidies are you thinking of?

    Do you think everywhere outside the M50 is subsidised by south county Dublin?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    If the storms bullseye had being Dublin with the entire city without power would you expect people from everywhere else to say "serves them right for living in high density!".

    If you have zero empathy for the suffering of your fellow citizens around the country then better off saying nought. You just come across as insufferable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭aido76


    East Galway, 14KM east/north east of Athenry Just got estimate for power to be back, Wednesday week, 5th Feb. Not sure what we will do till then. Was looking for a generator all day yesterday but nothing available, just to get fridge and water pumping. Have solid fuel stove and gas hob so we are fine with that way.

    Anyone with a spare generator I can use for 10 days or so would be appreciated!

    Long time lurker here mainly for the big weather events and MT's daily forecast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    West Galway. Approx 12 miles from Galway city. February 5th is approx time for electricity return. Grim but we are adapting. Not surprised because I have counted well over 10 poles down in our area. Drove to North Galway yesterday and there are massive trees down everywhere. People really need to top all those massive leylandi trees because a lot of them came down. Lots of houses have minor damage (slates gone or windows smashed by branches).

    Still have water even though I heard we would lose it yesterday.

    The one message I keep hearing is that this storm really really frightened people. Especially around 4-5am.

    And cash is very important again! And board games and playing cards 🙂

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    The ESB should be putting more power lines under ground like all other utilities, a small bit of coordination between these utilities and forward thinking, when a trench is dug for water through in an ESB duct as well, I know we can't have underground wires going up every lane in the country but all big towns should be connected at this stage, and yes I believe when you choose to live in the middle of know where like myself you should take personal responsibility to be able to survive a week with out power and water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    In fairness there was probably more rural resilience 30 years ago. I remember going out to visit a friends house after one of the late 90s storms and they hadn't had electricity for weeks but it didn't bother them as they had the range heating the whole house which they were fueling with logs from previous storms, every room had torches and candles.

    My grandmother didn't have indoor plumbing until the mid 1990s, but that was when there was still lots of relatives living locally that would drop in pails of spring water to her when she needed. Now with smaller families we have to plan to be more self contained and I reckon this storm will make people plan for more off grid resilience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Orange warning is for rain, only a few deparments down south have it for wind, hopefully they'll be over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Power came back last night around 9. Thanks to the line and repair crews, brick bats to the organisation and the climageddon renewables besotted politicians who have directed efforts and funds away from more important matters like ensuring stability of supply.

    I have an old Nokia 720, that has an FM radio in it. Twice, at 3pm and 5pm, I used it to listen to the news and hopefully get a sense of how the situation was being viewed as a nation.

    RTE 1 was besotted with a feckin horse race, no news, and later with some other sporting event. I scanned a few other stations and there was just brief mentions of some minor drama involving the ESB and some few hundred thousand without power in some other country to the west, and now back to the hurling where there was some drama between offally and kilkenny when mid fielder Gavin couldentgivearuck, was...

    O lord give me a feckin big con saw and a large tug boat so that I can detach those self-absorbed coulden't give a shizts from the 60% of us beyond the pale and tow them up next to Iceland.

    Listening to the radio solved the mystery to me of all the, 'wasn't bad where I am, this storm of the century stuff is just hype and exageration' type posts on this thread.

    I went from from wind-blown to mind-blown in just a few minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Just heard there are over 100 trees down in my local golf course. Madness.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Will have to play Crazy Golf there for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭obi604


    east Galway, power went on Friday night at 3am. And came back today, Sunday at 11:30am. Now not sure how long it will stay up for but it’s a start. Some absolute pain not having power.

    my mobile phone GSM has been down all this time too so no real connectivity with the outside world……. now I can use my home broadband WiFi which I am Surprised is actually up as GSM is still very bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    There's no nonsense in my posts so if you are being aggravated by them, that's on you. ME could do with more stations but from the data we have, the evidence is that storms of the past were worse. For instance, on 9th feb 1988 ME had fewer stations than now, 14, with several of them well inland. 13 of the 14 recorded Red level guts with the other one Orange. Many stations were well into Red.

    Problem is as people have recency bias and poor attention spans, 1961, 1974, 1987 (England) 1988, 1990, 1997, 1998 etc. may as well be 1839.

    It is correct to say that Eowyn could have been worse, much worse. Then we can get into talking about the likelihood and the variables e.g sryanbruen's recent post about how warming of the North Atlantic possibly contributing to windstorms being weaker than they used to be.

    I don't have to travel far to find people who could do with a generator. many in my locality still have no power today. Should I loan them my generator that I paid 1300 quid for? Well no, I'm not going to do that, especially since these people wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire. They also have 80k or more worth of vehicles on their driveways but no generator. Priorities.

    Hopefully people will learn a big lesson from this storm although I doubt it. I've been storm aware since 1987 when I was 10 years old and as a child realised that if storms could hammer southern England, they could do the same to Ireland. One result of this is over the years I've spent thousands on tree maintenance to ensure that my trees are not going to be the ones taking down powerlines or blocking roads for me and other people. Can't say the same for some of the neighbours. I've watched some green Leylandii type trees grow from saplings well below powerlines to now huge but people don't give a sh1t. These are the people who are the bolloxes, not people posting meteorological facts on the internet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Some of those tree locations didn't suit my game so it could be a blessing 😉

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    You would not know that hundreds of thousands of the population are without power and many without water. The national broadcaster like the politicians has been completely absent in this crisis. That's the crux of it, there is nothing emanating from central channels to suggest that there is crisis conditions on the island.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Keep an eye for texts from ESBN to whatever number is associated to the MPRN, previously they've set up 'respite' centres for long term disruptions so hopefully they'll do so again shortly.

    The longest estimate I've seen so far when checking for friends/relations with only SMS contact available so far is 6th Feb for almost 3000 customers in Lanesborough, Longford.

    The below is a general 'signature' and not part of any post:

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits


    A little bit of empathy and humility goes a long way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nice sentiment, but you'll likely find on closer examination, that empathy is a place a very long way away from Dublin.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    After no internet for 3 days and blocked roads I'm out of South Longford and at my parents for a few moments before going back to power my alarm with a backup battery. Had solar backup running til last night. Was very lucky not to have a damaged roof in the garage from a falling tree, another half metre and it would have slammed into it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭glack


    Apparently electricity crews on their way from the UK. Not as many as may have come in the past as they have a lot of outages in northern England and Scotland. Crews from France arriving during the week also.

    I get the frustration but the level of damage in some areas of the west is similar to what you would see on TV after tropical storms. Some of these repairs are going to need extensive labour intensive work. I live in the east where things aren’t too bad but it will be slow here too as the nationwide ESB service is under unprecedented pressure. Give out about the lack of underground lines, or the lack of tree maintenance that could have prevented some of the damage. That’s fair. But the ESB crews out today in far from ideal conditions are working hard. And many are heading home to no power or water in their own homes after long shifts in the wind and rain.



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