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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭creedp


    I think a big problem is that the Govt/ESBN need to change the approach to ensuring the network doesn't collapse from trees falling on lines each time we have a storm. The population is more dependant than ever on electricity, a dependency which will increase even more in the years ahead as more if us switch to electric heating and transport.

    The problem with ESBN crews is that they are working extremely hard after the horse has bolted. It's not good enough really to have so much electricity cable running adjacent and through trees which will inevitably collapse the network every time we have a storm. Surely its time for the crews to commence an all year around ongoing programme of removing trees from beside lines. A couple of days back I saw a crew driving around near me lopping off a couple of branches from trees near lines only for one of the bloody trees subsequently falling on the line. The tree was the problem not a couple of branches. If we are going to have overhead lines in rural areas, we need to remove trees from around these lines and maybe, just maybe vulnerable people wouldn't have to wait multiple days for power ro be restored after any significant storm hits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭glen123


    I don’t have a strong opinion on ESB but all I can say is that we had 5 full days of planned power outages last year (presumably to improve the network). Yet now we have a restoration time of 31st of Jan on top of all the money we spent to stay online during those 5 days and now. During the storm even my solar panels haven’t moved an inch on the roof yet an esb pole broke in half a kilometre from our house.

    I am sitting here warm and comfortable yet pretty angry about this random date of 31st of January due to lack of proper planning. I can only imagine how others feel who are sitting there with no heat or water.

    Government’s behaviour is even worse. This whole thing isn’t even top 5 news any longer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,795 ✭✭✭JJayoo


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    There is a fence and gate in there somewhere, will be fun sorting it out..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 23h4589j1234


    Government are off celebrating there new status.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Kilmovee:

    Near Knock Airport:

    No power or phone data/signal. Had to drive all the way over to a spot on a hill between Boyle and Sligo to get a signal to post this.

    Hundreds of large trees down everywhere all across Mayo and Roscommon. Some power back in Ballaghaderreen and Boyle, but all areas outside of these towns still dark. Absolutely no WiFi or phone data anywhere.

    The damage to powerlines is extensive. Boyle town has had a large number of massive trees down brining down 100 year old walls and many power lines.

    My own house, tonnes of large trees down. Garden shed demolished, glasshouse demolished, flashing gone from house roof, Tree fell on toolshed. Couldn't get out of house for a day as all roads around were blocked. Only chemist and supervalue in cadtlerea has power.

    To all the folks saying that it wasn't as bad as forecast, please cop the hell on and save your observations to your immediate family and colleagues down at the water cooler, the rest of us having to deal with the aftermath really do not want to know.

    I feel sorry for young families trying to heat rooms, bottles, young kids or even get informed due to lack of communication infrastructure.

    The ESB infrastructure engineers probably need to reevaluate our power infrastructure in order to cope with what I'm sure will be a regular winter occurance going forward. However, they are doing as best they can at the moment. Good to see the IR-equipped chopper flying down power line tracts to figure out which transformers are busted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I think we also need to look at our settlement patterns. If we are going to get more storms, we must build communities where people live closer together and support each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭redunited


    Drove from Roscommon to Tuam today, didn't see 1 ESB vehicle, but did see speed vans on my journey.

    Plenty of locals cutting trees.

    Lucky enough to have a generator and I have to say I'm shocked at the governments response to this.

    My whole area has had no power, internet or water for 48 hours now and when I get to see the news

    it seems the government have gone AWOL.

    thank god I purchased a generator for this very scenario a few years back. I feel so sorry for those who are freezing in their homes without power and water.

    If anything is to be learnt from this it's not to rely on electricity to run your car or heat your home. Imagine the horror for those with an electric car and a new built house with no chimney or fireplace.

    Why are the defence forces not used in situations like this to assist, even if only delivering water, generators or helping to clear roads?

    managed to squeeze about around 0.5mbs out of my 5G at 1am to write this, nothing throughout the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    We do. And we already do.

    Still doesn't stop the storms or storm damage though.

    You may be surprised to know that there are many hundreds of thousands of us who do not desire to live like sardines and who live and work in rural industries which help to provide many of the comforts that city-dwellers enjoy....such as farms.

    I would highly recommend visiting us here to see how it works. It may change your perspective on life. Winter storms have always been here. Rural communities have always supported each other. I have yet to meet anyone who actively searched out an opportunity to live in Dublin City, for example. Most people living in Dublin are forced to, due to work.

    What we need are incentives to encourage city dwellers to move BACK to rural communities, not out of them.

    There's also the geographical and meteorological fact of the West being more prone to storms, compared to the east coast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    At what point will your family invest in a few rechargeable lights, a paraffin heater, a solar powerstation, a €300 generator from Screwfix?

    Now come on, the Government are not the Christmas Fairy.

    Call me sexist by all means if you are a woman, but that is pathetic. No one belonged to me is cold or short of electricity. A few quid and priorities in order ensures it.

    The Government have their job to do. We all have ours.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 GAA_2025


    Not everyone is as wealthy as you buddy.

    300 euro might be a night out for you but it's not something to be thrown around willy nilly by a lot of people in this country especially for such a basic service like electricity that we pay taxes for!

    And I notice you didn't offer any solution for the need for water or the farmers not having water for their cattle.

    Come on smart guy, what's the solution for not having any water to shower or water for cattle to drink?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Ah thats pure rubbish. People driving cars way beyond their means and then no self-reliance.

    Do you need the government to keep you topped up with jacksroll and bread too? €300 is a third of what most people spend on a sun holiday.

    Priorities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Are you well?

    Its called self reliance. I'm a farmer. Its the way of farmers. Unless you're a victim.

    2 is 1 and 1 is none. Research it and live it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Tzmaster90


    I got power back at 17:00 25/01 it was tough as we are so dependent on esb . Can someone fill me what did i miss i was on 45 page before i lost power . it was a epic storm but lets tell nature not to do that again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! looking at you Gonzo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    The government are indeed useless. The services and infrastructure in this country for our supposed wealth are poor at best.

    I would have a generator if I lived on the west coast. In fact I'd probably have a generator if I ever lost power for more than a day. Lucky to have never lost power once in the 10 years we've lived here.

    Generator doesn't solve the water issue though which presumably means no central heating?

    Good luck to anyone still suffering the fallout of the storm.

    500k people without power should be a national emergency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Generator would solve the central heating. Issue with the likes of oil fired heating. maybe not if you had something needing much more power like an electric boiler

    Lack of mains water shouldn't affect central heating unless there is a leak. Undetected leaks can be an issue especially in open systems (header tank in attic with ballcock) You mightn't know you had a leak because the ballcock would keep the tank topped up from the mains - if there is mains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Thanks Oíche.

    Theres a few clowns on this thread that could learn some sense and compassion from you.

    This storm was incredibly destructive in Connacht. And not just on some remote connemara headlamd near Mace Head as some of the misinformed on here seem to think. Seriously couldn't believe Reading here yesterday that "it wasn't too bad" and Darwin and Ophelia were worse.

    We're 10km from Athlone and estimated reconnection for ESB is 1st February.

    The scale and magnitude of the destruction is totally unprecedented in living memory for this country. Would post soms shocking pictures but impossible without Internet.

    The entire northwestern quarter of the island outside the big towns will Basically need to be re-wired. There are millions of trees down.

    And then you eventually get to hear some national news broadcast and it's hardly mentioned.

    Fairly sickening when you've no short term prospects of power, Internet, phones, heating, water and the only reason we have any roads open is because of voluntary work with chainsaws and tractors of local farmers. No state agencies bar ESB to be seen. Rant over, but in terms of wind damage, in Connacht at least, this was likely only surpassed by 1839.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    outdated from theses who were working the lines is 9-10 days .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    it's possible to recognise that this storm has caused a lot of damage and misery for many while also acknowledging that there have been worse storms (in terms of recorded windspeeds at least) in living memory. See Sryan's table. Also, as per this thread, various models and ME's detailed forecasts for Eowyn showed some truly shocking windspeeds which didn't transpire. The point is, it could have been a lot worse with even more destruction, loss of life, storm surges etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Fair play to the ESB line crews, they are doing their best, but they don't even know the extent of the breakages yet.

    It's important for those outside the affected areas to note, that when you hear there's still 400,000 properties without power, that's a significant underestimate. Due to the lack of connectivity, a lot of faults haven't even been reported yet.

    On our line there are multiple local breakages but even though there are approx 100 homes affected, the count on the ESB fault checker is 10!

    Assistance from foreign power crews is absolutely needed.

    It's really a National Emergency situation but it seems because the Pale is not affected it doesn't matter...?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    In what way? What would you suggest they do to impove things when already at 100% ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Xx



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Bring a few generators and bottled water down to people in the west rather than posting aggravating nonsense on the Internet.

    Just because we don't have enough weather stations to be representative, and some models overestimated gusts doesn't mean it wasn't the most destructive storm in 100 years.

    "It could have been worse" you say?!

    Good God!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    "In my opinion, the government are not reacting suitably to this situation.

    Maybe it's because the Dubs have got off scot free that they don't care about the rest of the people."

    The government is overwhelmingly non Dubs. French crews were over only 6 weeks ago they might beon their way now.

    And as another poster pointed out. Cook a stew in advance. Fill water tanks or a few old baths for cattle in advance. A little camping gas burner would be cheaper than a meal in a chipper these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    a bit late for the hundreds of thousands of one off houses dotted all around Ireland. That wont and can't change as these houses are lifetime investments for those families. They are there right now, dealing with this, most of them not even able to get connections to let people know of their predicaments. Thousands of farms too that will always be one off, in rural areas, trying to feed animals that will eventually feed us. So its a moot point right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭Xander10


    There is contact to avail of available UK and EU resources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,608 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    ESB have already contacted French and UK counterparts for assistance .

    When you live rurally you need to be prepared for the consequences of that. When storms are forecast we get stocked on gas or camp stoves, solid fuel, a generator if electricity is especially necessary etc, and water.

    Power cuts are a reality of living rurally. If you don't get a few power cuts a year at least you are very very lucky!

    Its no use blaming ESB or the network for these things - they are an unavoidable part of rural life. Nowhere in the world has underground cables serving all rural communities



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭yagan


    The "national media" seems as interested the 46a bus route in Dublin ending.

    The lack of interest in our greatest natural disaster is astonishing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    I’m seeing some local faults with an estimated restoration time of a week from today.

    With storm darragh, the snow earlier this month and this storm that’ll be 3 times people have been without electricity for a week or more. Also they really need to sort out the water treatment plants with back up generators. Whatever about the electricity it’s a joke people being without water for a week or more because there’s no power at the water treatment plants.

    The French have an orange wind warning today, that won’t help with crews from France coming over to help.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Cyclonius


    While the ESB repair crews might be doing good work, the situation as a whole is a joke.

    Saying that these things are an unavoidable part of rural life would be more believable if not for the fact that the number of outages over the last few years is much worse than it was 30 years ago, when a more proactive approach to trimming back branches from power lines was taken.

    The country has never been richer and yet many services are more poorly run than they were decades ago.



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