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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭lyoness


    was a late falling tree apparently that pc in Celbridge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,845 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Did some googling after learning this fact a few pages back. Shocked (Baduum Tish) to learn it as initially it didn't seem to make any sense. Like how TF does it make sense not to be able to use Solar and Battery in the event of a power cut!!! Quickly learned about the safety issues for Electric Network workers of home Solar and Battery systems feeding power back onto the supposedly non Live grid sections they might be working on. Also the issue of Firefighters needing to be able to quickly and easily disable power to a burning house before they go in to fight the fire. (Hence Fireman Switches)

    When I eventually get around to installing Solar and Battery I'll probably spend the extra in an inverter that you can plug some stuff into during a power cut but probably won't bother going to all the extra wiring and switch hassle to 'Island' the whole system from the Grid in order to keep the whole house powered up and Solar generating and topping up the battery during a powercut. We just don't get powercuts often enough or of long enough of a duration to make it worth all the effort.

    What I will probably do which touched on your point about a Battery not having much juice to last too long in a powercut anyway, is to follow the advice of some Irish posters on this subject elsewhere who quickly realised it made financial sense to double their battery capacity. Their regret being that they didn't buy double the capacity in batteries from the outset where they would have saved the VAT on the second 5kWh Battery which they didn't save by buying it later. Unless I misunderstood them, the second battery meant they could run the house for a day cheaply even with little solar generation due to clouds because they were topping up the batteries with cheap Night Rate Electricity and discharging them on the cloudy days to power the whole house. The side benefit of that being in the event of a powercut you also have enough battery capacity to run/recharge a few essential items from the inverter sockets for several days during a power cut.

    Thankfully in our case we wouldn't need to run electric heaters off that which would quickly deplete even a large capacity battery setup. Victorian house which we left 2 open fireplaces in. Would just need to light some fires. Also blessed that although only the Attic and ground floor slab is well insulated, the uninsulated 2ft thick walls have huge thermal mass, every window and door is DG, one window and patio door is East facing with the vast majority on the South facing side and the Bays and front door on the West facing side so we have massive solar gain considering this is Victorian house. Luckily we are end of terrace on the right end of the terrace. LOL. Long thin mid terrace Victorians look so depressingly dark when you look in their windows when walking past! The most surprising thing is looking at my self installed Hive setup graphs. Middle of Winter and the house only drops 1 degree between the heating going off around 10-11pm and coming back on at 7am. AFAIK thats BER A rated levels and yet if we had a BER inspection the house would probably get a D or an E!!

    The biggest expense for me installing Solar and Battery is not going to be battery capacity, its going to be that 24 panels for 5Kwp on the south facing side of the roof potentially wouldn't get planning anyway but even if it did would definitely look like Ass on this Victorian roof facing the street, hence I will probably end up spending the extra on Slate affect Solar Roof tiles (just not the ones made by Herr Musk. LOL) Thats all work for another decade though. LOL.

    One Solar website with a Postcode checker said our south facing roof was suitable for a 24 panel 5kwp setup like I mentioned earlier. Said it would be €6000 after grant and payback time would be 4.5 years. Website probably didn't take into account the 2 Velux on that side of the roof so could probably fit a few less panels than the site said, but on the other hand Solar roof tiles having more coverage and wrapped around the South West ish facing side of the roof probably make back up for that. I guess I'll make the jump when Solar Roof tiles come down in price from multiples to 'Only' 2x the cost of conventional panels and when the current roof slates and old decaying non breathable Bitumen roof membrane need a refresh anyway. So I'll probably join the Solar gang in the early 2030's…but need to start Saving now! LOL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Cost-effective to bury the grid for a densely populated city.

    Not possible or effective for houses in the middle of nowhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Thunder87


    Interesting, thanks! Pretty much confirms what we said yesterday, that for the most part (and not meaning to downplay it's affect in Galway/Clare) this turned out not to be the modern equivalent of Oíche na Gaoithe Móire as some models were hinting at, but just a high end winter storm comparible to what were a fairly regular occurance in the 20th century

    Locally in north Dublin it was a complete non-event, just a regular windy night and a breezy morning with some moderate gusts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    No ESB, no broadband, no mobile reception and soon no water. I doubt we will get ESB back for several days. So many poles down.

    But you know what, there is a great community spirit and everyone is out helping with the cleanup.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Not funny at all. Wouldn't wish that on anyone.

    I recall having no water after the big freeze back in 2010 and it was a wretched four days somewhat helped by my great neighbours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The place was white with hailstones this morning. And we have enough firewood to last 3 years with all the trees down.

    The trees that fell were often heavily clad in ivy, ash or evergreens. If the trees had been in full leaf, it would have been ever worse.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,335 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Was the 183 at Mace highest recorded gust? Did we get the missing data?

    It really was an incredible storm. A level above anything I have seen before. The aftermath is very grounding.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Just back from the Chadwick's Heiton Buckley in Salthill.

    Have never seen it as busy! Tec7 flying off the shelves, screws, ply, felt, roof ridges and a huge amount of timber.

    At one stage there must have been 7 or 10 cars/jeeps with trailers in the collection yard. It was mighty to see how patient everyone was as well, not a time to be impatient.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,641 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Finally got in contact with my sister in Sligo. Some wild stories to tell. Apparently Tubbercurry was completely cut off with roads blocked, power and mobile masts down, no internet either! Her village, Cloonacool is pretty much the same but the road to Sligo town where she works was cleared and that's where she got her phone signal back. We are all worried about her as she is never one to not post rubbish in the family Whataspp everyday but silence was not golden in this case.

    She told a mad story, apparently after it all died down she went for a walk with the kids to see the damage around and she spotted a help sign in one of her neighbors windows. An old lady lives there and her oxygen tank was running low so she thought she was going to die. My sister arranged an ambulance for her so shes fine now but could have been a sad story. Hopefully there isn't many like that old lady in communities hard hit from this storm.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,715 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    As always, thanks for your storm tables.

    Someone needs to show George Lee. According to his article on rte.ie

    "The last time Ireland experienced a storm like this one, there was no rural electrification, no telecommunications infrastructure, and virtually no cars on the roads"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,193 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    "as a spanish storm approaches ireland" says the Newstalk newsreader



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    No need to wait that long, I'd recommend getting a variety of prices now. Try the Irish Solar Owners Group on Facebook.

    Plenty of companies out there well used to awkward roof layouts etc. And I only paid €400 extra for the changeover switch that let's me go fully off grid with the whole house operational.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭watchclocker


    Well done to your sister, you'd like to assume that she was the first to see it

    Poor lady must have been so afraid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I have a lot of empathy for anyone suffering after this. I have bad anxiety, I would even say PTSD from recurring property storm damage in the past. Don't underestimate the mental effect it can have on you.

    Definitely the cheap disposable yellow foam earplugs (EAR brand) will give you a better night sleep in future. I haven't found anything better. You can buy them in bulk rather than once off.

    If your nerves are constantly at you, don't be afraid to talk about it, get it out of your system, and get some professional help if you need it. And make the most of any good weather we have this time of the year, get as much sunshine that's available and exercise outside when you can.

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    There’s so many without water because the water treatment plants have no electricity. Would it not make sense to have back up generators at these plants?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭LadyMayBelle


    Back online after a night in Athenry I'd never so again. We are still out of power and signal so came to town to charge the car and devices. No damage to the solar panels but few houses got seriously battered with slates and smashed windows. Checked on the mother in law about 10mins away and the drive there was like the aftermath of something I'd only seen on TV! Trees down, power lines down.. my folks garden got ruined (smashed glasshouse) and something from the neighbours garden blew in and smashed the back door.

    Stay safe everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,833 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Agree with this.

    It's not feasible now or in the future having to rely on cabling that is subject to winds and fallen branches . Everything in people's lives now depends on electricity from heating, cooking to transport and connectivity which was the plan from an environmental pov .

    Not everyone has stoves or gas hobs or petrol/ diesel vehicles anymore to give them a dig out in outages.

    Thinking of people stranded with no water, no electricity, no mobile phones , no heating in a house somewhere , many now and during the snow, out of towns and villages and an EV outside the door with a dead battery .

    Just unsafe

    Solar power that can kick in without elec and maybe for very isolated areas attaching to local wind farms?

    I don't know if it's practical or feasible to bury all lines to every rural dwelling in Ireland .

    People are getting angry here about it and that's understandable . It's a rough time and more bad weather on the way but hopefully not too bad .

    Hope people get sorted soon absolutely, but it's all just hopes and prayers .

    Fallen tree outside ours cleared already less than 24 hours NCD . I know we are lucky here and am grateful for it .

    Those crews that are out since early yesterday trying to restore power and clear the roads deserve a lot of credit . Not an easy job and danger money well deserved .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭goldsparkle


    Power check is giving me tomorrow night 9 as a restore time but this happened during the snow storm in November where we got a restore time but it was slower and longer to come back.

    I want to move into the city into a hotel room.

    I was able to find internet, coffee and a hairdresser to get a wash&blowdry in the city 😁 and going home now to no power. I would prefer to stay in the city having some drinks but sadly I need to return. I have a gas cooker so that helps and I buy bottled water every week and stack up. Just for these type of instances.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,833 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Think this thread has been great for a lot of people . From the experts to the practical advice and humans just posting .

    Its what Boards does best 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Sarial


    Nr Oranmore - Clarinbridge & Kilcolgan look to be completely without electricity. We've had no signal or power since the storm. Oranmore has power, but signal coverage is very spotty.

    Lot of trees splintered and taken down telegraph poles with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭I says


    Power back since 3 🤞🤞🤞 only one side of village. Was in mullingar earlier driving the C-link and the new estate build by glenveagh homes, a few newly build houses were missing tiles of the roof. Christ almighty they were charging circa 330000 for those. Most not even lived in 6 months. Quality control my backside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭goldsparkle


    I am in Connemara and same - power, water, phone - all down.

    If the weather isn't too bad tomorrow, I may pack a bag and book a hotel room in the city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Sarial


    A friend had to make that call too, Connemara sounds like a disaster zone. She sent a pic of a telegraph pole that just folded over the wall into the garden, but I think it's her house so I won't post pic. Sounds like it's a common sight out that way. Hope you get utilities back soon, our powercheck area looks to be 30/01 for power restoration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,715 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Weather gone miserable today, wet, breezy, cold - sh1t for anyone without power and/or heat and/or water again this evening. For frail, homebound elderly and their carers it's worse than that. As well as the cold, many will be using hospital beds with inflatable pressure distributing mattresses. From what I can see of our one, they deflate rapidly when the compressor stops and there is no manual valve to close to retain the air. There is some foam in the mattress but its not comfortable once deflated. Other equipment they may be reliant on include hoists (has a battery but how long is it going to last if not charged every night) and electric recliner chairs to get their feet up for circulation during the day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    just got a powercheck.ie update 9pm Sunday for power restoration

    but my living room is 18 degrees ( log burner) kitchen 21 ( stanley 8 going non stop) bedroom I'd 16. Just had a gravity fed shower, hot water from the stanley which has a gravity fed hot water system.

    got the range and gas hob so pretty comfortable really.

    ivthink this is the longest outage we had since the early 2000s when they upgraded all our power lines and transformers

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    Thank goodness I have a wood burning stove, though not enough fuel to see me through. ESB estimate restoration at 9 pm tomorrow - wonderful.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Got my electricity back around 13.00, glad to get the heat through the house again, cold wintry shower day down to 3.9C now. Hope everybody gets power restored soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Still no electricity. At least my phone coverage is finally but my battery is about to die:) I definitely have had my fill of storms for a while now. Fog and frost next week never sounded so good!



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