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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Is the ESB Power Check page not working for anyone? It never renders the map for me. Just a grey background.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,993 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I'm originally from Perth, where they buried the entire grid for a whole city.

    I didn't mean bury all the twigs and leaves, I meant bury the branches that are failure prone, that way power restoration isn't so necessary for major faults so resources would be freed up to deal with the twigs. There is way too much being spent on the grid to shore it up against the woeful instability inflicted on it by unreliable renewables, that could be better spent on hardening it against storm damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭yagan


    It's mad to think there's gobshítes who think no one would have lost power in this storm if we only used non renewable energy.

    There's loads of people with power now because they have solar while their local grid is down.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 cuores


    No they didn't, most of the CBD is underground. The majority of urban and suburban Perth still has wires on poles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Perth is a city

    Rural Kerry is the complete opposite. it's low density spread out with farms everywhere and so many different landowners to negotiate with. It is literally the opposite scenario, which is exactly why the network is above ground lines.

    Suffering more and longer power cuts is part and parcel of rural living.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    That's so true. The silence and the inability to actually DO things that are done without thinking. I find myself going to put the kettle on, or stick something in the m/wave, or use the desktop, or put the wash on, whatever, and have to catch myself. I laugh when I think about power cuts and automatically think, ah we'll be ok we have electric blankets. lol. It sure makes you appreciate the power of electric power!

    In another way it can make you get up off yer ass and DO things like clearing out the damn shed or fixing up the bits in the garden, or sorting stuff out, or actually sitting in the quiet and reading a book.

    Don't get me wrong, no one wants to be without electricity. No one because it's terrible, and I hope those affected, particularly those who are older, alone or immobile will be ok. But I think people look out for each other far more than is realised. Well I sure hope so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,929 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    The yesterday's weather page is all over the place and was inconsistent with the hourly observations. They at least included the gust figures from Belmullet and Malin Head so here's the storm comparison table updated to include all the available data from Éowyn using a combination of yesterday/Thursday's hourly observations and the data we have now.

    Have to embed a tweet because Boards makes it impossible to view the table in its entirety with very bad resolution.

    As mentioned yesterday, this beats any storm in the table back to 2011 on the national average. Now with updated data, it's an average of 126 km/h compared to 122 km/h during Darwin. There has been no other storm in that time that has exceeded a national average of 110 km/h. I would compare to storms before that but a good few of the stations don't have record before then so it's not comparable.

    Additionally, I had a sustained winds one in the works with comparison data back to at least Storm Barra in December 2021 but too many stations missing for yesterday so I don't think it's worth posting. There is the fact too that the data we have is just the last 10 minutes of that given hour in most cases rather than the true max. We need to wait a month later for that data when the Met update the historical database. In future they will have a data centre page with an improved historical database in the public domain, I hope this comes with sooner sustained wind data but I won't hold my breath.

    As a reminder, Mace Head has set national records for both maximum wind gusts and sustained winds - for any month of the year. There is discrepancy in the actual figures between various sites due to different metric conversions - Met's words, not mine. When they will be verified who knows. Verification for new records takes a long time to quality check before they actually official.

    In terms of station records, Éowyn set wind gust records for Athenry, Finner Camp, Gurteen, Knock Airport and Mace Head. Note all of these with the exception of Knock only began records this century.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭scooby77


    No supply interruption at all here in Ballisodare. Seems to be a very reliable line...here 15 years and can count unannounced interruptions on one hand...and we definitely got a good battering here on Friday morning, lost 10 roof tiles!

    It's a completely different story though for my parents and other family members living in different parts of rural Sligo, in storms power loss almost guaranteed...though tbf usually repaired quick enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭yagan


    I lived there for a few years and we had good outages whenever there was a strong gale or lightening taking out transformers, and I wasn't far from the CBD. And who da fook lives in the CBD? It was once of the weirdest cities I've lived in where the city business district ends and the suburbs begin with little inbetween, and Northbridge isn't mush to talk about.

    Given the right windy conditions and dry conditions fallen lines seemed to a common cause of suburban bush fires there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭jj880


    North Donegal.

    Power back on. Off since 8am yesterday. Had no 4G either and now thats working again. Typical 😆. But was enjoyable playing cards, board games and listening to the radio. Been a while since we did that. Few fences down and some plaster off 1 side of our chimney but nothing serious. Lough Foyle was swelling like Ive never seen it before. Up nearly the height of the pier. Got off lightly in general it seems. Red warning everywhere was 100% correct. Hard to understand why some would come on here acting the bollox just because their house / area wasn't damaged. Bizarre behaviour. Hopefully not too long until power restored to everyone. Think we'll leave it a few weeks before looking for someone to sort the chimney. No doubt more severe damage in the area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Condor24


    Great table, easy on the eye. And shows that while Eowyn indeed got on the board in a few of the newer stations and got that Mace Head record, some of the others, old favourites Debbie 61,the Jan 74 storm , Darwin 2014, still topped it at a fair number of older stations. Eowyn broke a record, but was not record breaking in another sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭goldsparkle


    Thanks for keeping me company the other night. I found it hard to sleep. I got some sleep in the early hours of Friday morning. Got up and saw the damage. There's a tree down in the lawn. Power is gone. Water is going. Lines down. Phone reception gone. No internet. I travelled into the city to get some reception and coffee.

    It was so bad the other night. There's soany trees, walls and lines down. I never saw anything like it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    The Spanish Met Service have named #StormHerminia which is the system that will bring us wet and windy weather Sunday/Monday.

    So - do we need a new STORM thread for Herminia?

    Apparently another on the way wednesday BUT tracking south of us at the moment, that may change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Problem likely to be slow internet on your device connection leading to timeouts or issues with the application on the device you are using to render the page. Bear in mind, due to the scale of damage, the updates are not entirely accurate. ESB are concentrating on repairing lines down that present a material safety risk, updating as they find the damage, it will probably be late Sunday before Powercheck accuracy improves. ESB are stretched for resources and will prioritize restoring service to the larger population centers and work their way out to the end of the lines. You may not see your area currently, they tend to flag the start of the line as having the outage.

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    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭yagan


    Although we didn't lose power I had been thinking about getting one the new PHEV that can send power back into the house when the grid is down. They've become very popular in Ukraine with all the constant power cuts from Russian attacks. It's like having a big power bank on your doorstep. I can see them selling well on the west coast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,487 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Walking around Galway city and a crazy amount of properties with roof damage. Some areas have streets where every single house is missing a few slates. Crazy.

    Luckily I got away with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭Mr Velo


    Power gone since 4.30am yesterday morning in the height of the storm in Galway. Thousands still without power. No estimation of a repair time yet. Times like this you realise what we take for granted…. light, heat, broadband, tv etc etc.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,634 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Still out of power here in Kerry, got a mid size generator at the beginning of the week in anticipation of power cuts and going well alternating between fridge and freezer mainly along with using other less power consuming electrical items on at the same time. Been looking at getting a heavy duty battery as well, must do my research. But do you know one of the biggest eye openers post storm.....that buttermilk pancakes taste better cooked on gas 😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭yagan


    Convenience lifestyle and just in time supply chains have reduced household planning. We never worried about power cuts as kids as we had a solid fuel stove, but there's no way I'd have one now with the associated soot etc.. but I do keep a basic camping stove for emergencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,715 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Good to see the storm table updated, this was a bad one but I think Storm K (Feb 1988) and maybe a few of the 1990s storms were worse in terms of windspeeds. Won't stop George Lee and others trying to make this the worst storm since 1839.

    I'm in an area that escaped lightly enough from Eowyn, the big trees that I thought might come down are ok. Still, no (public) water, electricity, broadband or mobile phone yesterday. Electric and mobile back today.

    I was very glad of having a camping stove and generator but might get a small (say 1 kWh) battery to go with it as it's a disadvantage having to have the generator outside the house. But at the same time, there is so much energy in fossil fuels that you'd need to spend thousands to replicate that with a battery. e.g 10 Litres of petrol would give me roughly 19 kWh from my Honda EU22i generator. it can also run on propane with an optional kit. Maybe we need a thread on prepping.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭weatherfiend


    In Wexford during the storm. Thankfully no damage or issues. Yesterday evening from about 5pm the power flicked off a number of times and came straight back on. Then finally just after 8pm when I thought we’d got through unscathed we lost all power - it was kind of strange. Luckily dinner was just cooked and I had over-prepared with candles, batteries, fuel etc so they were put to good use. Luckily for us it all came back on at 8am this morning. Amazing the knock on effects. Sorry for all those with longer term outages



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭jj880


    We were very thankful for our gas hob and solid fuel stove with back boiler yesterday. My mother would always say when we were younger to have a gas hob for power cuts. Right she was as usual.

    Only thing we had to keep an eye on was running off the hot water as it wasnt getting pumped round the house. So we took baths every couple of hours 😆.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,634 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Good idea, would be great to share ideas, questions and hints.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Back working now. Wouldn't have been slow Internet. Have Gigabit Internet and using a phone that tops 400mbps on Speed test over WiFi. Was checking for someone else not myself.

    I imagine concurrent requests to the site was the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,929 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Last table for now, how Éowyn compares to some of the worst of the 20th century in terms of max wind gusts with Darwin from 2014 also included because that was regarded as the most impactful and severe storm of the current century to date until Éowyn.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Condor24


    Looking at all the faults some remote locations might be 10 to 14 days without power. I'm not far from Clara but it's got major faults I believe, they have to get those sorted before moving out onto the more rural places. Could be next week. I'm mentally prepared for that re warmth and cooking and charging devices as have stuff for all that but the water is now out from local schemes so no flushing toilets or cold washes even. That will be a headache.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    Power back in Celbridge just before noon after 14h off. Thankfully just as the house temp was staring to get too cold. I really need to get that superser organised ASAP. It's a lovely, bright day, but cold. I really hope everyone properly impacted by this storm get the support they need as quick as possible now.

    I don't know what's wrong with Celbridge power infrastructure but this is the 5th outage in 18 months - there had never been one ever in my 40 years in nearby Lucan (not my area anyway). And it's not storms - usually it's just random. And even this one was at 10pm on Fri night when it was all over. This Moneycooley substation seems not up to the job. Also still plenty of overhead power lines in this area (even still in Lucan too) - it may not be feasible to bury lines for the whole country, but getting it completed in huge urban centres would surely take pressure off the restoration teams, then allowing rural areas benefit when they suffer damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    power still out since 9am Friday.2 miles from donegal town.

    stanley 8 going great. found my tablet has an fm radio tuner !

    1 tree down I need to sort in the field

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    The public budget surplus was 7.5 bn in 2023.

    It will be higher in 2024, mainly due to one-off CT from the Apple legal ruling.

    The elec network is owned by EirGrid and ESB networks, are they even in the General Govt sector?

    They are comm SSB, does the central Govt finance them?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Power out for 26 hours and counting in my area of Donegal. Solar battery got down as low as 2% this morning. Had to go out and hose the snow off the panels to get them generating again. Thankfully all clear now and recharging in a thankfully very sunny clear day. We don't have mains water either so no power means no well pump and no filtration, so no water. Might be down til Monday so I might just power everything off completely tonight and on again in the morning. Contents of the kithcen freezer can go into the chest freezer in the garage which shouldn't defrost much as it's only about 2 degrees out there.



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