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General Rugby Discussion 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    If they weren't ok with it, it got them out of their comfort zone and helped them grow. Never coached in Ireland, partly because of this soft, whiny mentality. And Irish society is very litigious in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Would you have any problem being forced into watching older team mates play with sex toys dressed in women’s underwear as either an individual or as a parent?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    I have been puzzled over the last few years why a school with the rugby history of M.C.B. has been AWOL in providing players. It seems that the school no longer approaches the game with any sense of value or importance. This activity will be another nail in it's coffin. The Governing body of the school will be loathe to fund any extra curricular rugby activity now and they would be difficult to persuade differently. 157 years of rugby history binned by morons.

    The Rugby culture of the school in my time there had a bit of this arseing about but more humourous than bullying young guys to do such creepy, bullying, juvenile and disturbing stuff. You could return to the hotel and find your bed stolen..or your shoes nailed to the floor. One guy in Canada had his trousers hauled up a huge flagpole.etc. I suspect that anyone who had tried that disgraceful stuff in my day would have had their clock cleaned very swiftly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭PMC83


    If they weren't ok with it, it got them out of their comfort zone and helped them grow

    If they weren't ok with it it clearly wasn't ok to begin with. Comfort zone? What are you on about. No one would be comfortable with that. Its absolute nonsense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I presume you don't have kids, but if you do:

    Would you have any problem with your son being forced to run naked around a holiday resort, then told if he doesn't shave his head, there's a video of it going up on the internet? All while on a school-organised trip?

    Would you call him a "snowflake" if he arrived home upset?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    The naked run and the head shaving, I'd have no problem with. The filming would be an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    You didn't answer the question about calling him a snowflake so I presume the answer to that is "yes, I would".

    I find that extremely disturbing so I really hope you don't have kids and this is all hypothetical bluster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,053 ✭✭✭✭phog


    There's no place in society where it can be deemed ok to film an U18 running naked, then use that footage as leverage for them to be forced to shave their head.

    If it happened to a child of mine, I want real action against those that did it and those that were supposed to be supervising the teens rather than seeking damages



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    In a statement Ulster Rugby, which runs the Danske Bank Ulster Schools' Cup, said it acknowledges the settlement made.

    "What is reported does not align with the values of rugby, or the behaviours we expect from those involved in the game," it added.

    "This is an issue for Methodist College Belfast, but we will be engaging with the school to ensure we promote rugby as an inclusive and enjoyable game for all."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w8ddjld4do#:~:text=A%20former%20pupil%20of%20Methodist,negligence%20and%20failure%20to%20supervise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Blut2


    The head shaving, and streaking, if they were voluntary aren't anything too crazy. And can have team building positives in terms of shared experiences / identity.

    But the filming of the streaking and blackmail of using it to force the head shaving is completely wrong, theres no place for that kind of coercion in team building.

    And thats leaving aside the "perform[ing] acts on a sex toy while wearing women’s underwear", which is far more problematic. Thats just bizzare and completely inappropriate for an underage group of kids, theres no justification or defense of it whatsoever.

    Heads should roll, it shouldn't just be the financial pay out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭ersatz


    players/coaches— are you seeing players playing without mouth guards? I’ve come across it a couple of times where lads insist that it’s ok, and that some pros do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,525 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    I’ve been playing without one the last 6/7 seasons. Had a bad throat infection that created a weird gag reflex and haven’t been able to manage one since



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    I played without one for my last season. Had several teeth knocked out more than once while wearing one and think I forgot it one day, then just got used to playing without it. Figured they make eff all difference if a hit is hard enough anyway🤷🏻‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Haven’t worn one for a good few years. In my early 30s so know the risk but had 1 and a half teeth knocked out with one in as a 17 year old. Probably 25/30% of my team play without one. I can’t communicate properly/as clearly as I want to is my reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,388 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The vast majority of times I have heard these stories retold in pubs or wherever the vast majority of people in the vicinity think these people are muppets.

    I don't remember anyone growing up being envious of all those private schoolboy soggy biscuit stories.

    And we all managed to bond just fine without putting dildos in each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Soggy biscuit and dildos were never part of it in the teams I was involved in. So not sure why you quoted me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    How boring is the 2nd Season of full contact from an Irish view? Haven't even featured in the first 3 episodes. Nothing on us hammering France rd 1



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    It's a total snoozefest. I presume the Irish and French camps told them to take a hike but they could surely have made something watchable with what they have instead of 8 episodes of Marcus Smith driving his car and George North whinging about how he deserves to wear the Welsh jersey while reminding us 100 times how vitally important this wooden spoon clash is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,559 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Was at a show the other night and Alan Quinlan said its not returning for a third season. Apparently the access given by some of the teams has been shocking with Ireland the worst for restricting access. Even Gerry Thornley was saying that the IRFU seem to think that journalists are competing with irishrugby.ie and give the absolute bare minimum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Yea, watching the worst Welsh team in history makes for riveting viewing. I wish they could do an All or Nothing style show, follow a team through the whole tournament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    The French have used decent size print for the names on jerseys this year. Last year they hadd comically small print. It was like they didn't want to do it but we're forced so they did it with the smallest print they could get away with.

    Makes total sense to help the casual fan to follow the game with names. It's the showcase for people who don't usually watch rugby.

    Hope Ireland do likewise and use decent size names on the jersey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Not a fan of names on rugby jerseys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Maybe the Netflix production was always going to suck but the unions may have missed a trick here in terms of growing the game/audience. At the same time I haven't seen one of these sports fly on the wall series that's been worth watching (even if lots of people enjoy them), and Im sure it's a pain in the arse having cameras around all the time. Then apparently a bunch of lads did cooperate, spent personal time and ended up not making the cut. Business wise I think Netflix have run out of road on this type of show and are going to focus on live sport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭OldRio


    The first series of 'Last chance U' was good. Unfortunately it went downhill very quickly after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,559 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Yep, I agree with you, they really have. Drive to Survive has hugely increased the popularity of Formula 1. Pretty much every season has been great with some brilliant off the cuff and unexpected moments with a lot of people speaking their minds.

    Compare that to the rugby one and you've Andrew Porter being interviewed in a gym where there's an irfu media officer hidden in the background (can be seen in a mirror) clearly font) controlling the output. It was doomed from the start with that sort of control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Italy away in murrayfield are in their alternative jersey. Am I mad for thinking the home team usually uses the alternative jersey in international matches?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Stuart Lancaster given the bullet...

    Munster?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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