⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (Please read Mod Instruction in OP.)

Rain from the West · 23-01-2025 03:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089310#Comment_123089310

One note of caution as regards predicted mean winds and wind gusts from the models. Remember this is the prediction at 10 metres (c33 feet) above the ground. At the surface it may be lower. From the Royal Met Society:

"The wind speeds shown in the table below and that you hear quoted in weather or news reports are always measured at 10 metres above the ground using meteorological instruments.

They do not reflect the wind speeds that you would feel on the ground. At 2 metres, wind speed may be only 50-70% of these figures."

https://www.rmets.org/metmatters/beaufort-wind-scale#:~:text=The%20wind%20speeds%20shown%20in,%2D70%25%20of%20these%20figures.

BullBauld · 23-01-2025 03:15PM

Stay safe everyone. First time being worried about a storm. Hopefully the only damage will be structural and no loss of life.

BTW some amount of tulips converge in here when there's an event like this.

Thanks to all the knowledgeable posters for their updates.

Kaisr Sose · 23-01-2025 03:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123088935#Comment_123088935

Are there minimum standards/building regs on wind deflection?

Martee · 23-01-2025 03:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089293#Comment_123089293

Well the Red for Dublin/East is 6-11am. I'm wondering about a downgrade for the East.

CruelSummer · 23-01-2025 03:20PM

Should the media not be warning re threat to life particularly in Galway city and county, parts of Clare, West Mayo and so on based on some of the models and forecasted wind speeds. Is this a case of 202km/h gusts predicted on Aran islands, also forecasted to hit Oranmore and Galway city on some models. I don’t think the message has come across well re the severity of what’s coming. I’m shocked there’s no media in Galway city covering what’s happening at a city and county level. It’s a major population centre and looks like it’s going to take a severe hammering.

crusd · 23-01-2025 03:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089310#Comment_123089310

The UKV model selected seems to be a bit of an outlier.

Looking at the models visualised on Windy you get the following for 6am at that same location:

ECM: 113 mph

UKV: 125 mph

GFS: 84mph

ICON EU: 67mph

ICON: 64mph

NEMS: 75mph

AROME HD: 79mph

The peaks for each of the models at the same location are:

ECM: 113 mph (4-6am)

UKV: 125 mph (4-7am)

GFS: 84mph (5-6am)

ICON EU: 105mph (8-9am)

ICON: 104mph (8-9am)

NEMS: 75mph (5-7am)

AROME HD: 99mph (8-10am)

What Windy or Ventusky doesn't tell you also is which of those model is recently updated and which is a few hours or more old so dont take them as necessarily up to date and dont go fishing for the one that gives the worst case result.

Having said all that, I hope GFS is closest to actual

Murt2024 · 23-01-2025 03:23PM

Do I need to board up my windows or reinforce my walls. Someone please answer me

Mr.Wemmick · 23-01-2025 03:23PM

Tornado in Newquay, Devon has caused quite a bit of damage. The south coast of England has a level 2 tornado warning in place today.

https://x.com/weatherbraine/status/1882402322258784655

setanta1984 · 23-01-2025 03:23PM

Is it fair to say there is pretty much consensus now on that the track of this is more northerly? That the really excessive winds are fairly certain to affect the west rather than the south coast?

Seemed to my untrained eye that the models were flip flopping on this before today but all talk now seems to be focusing on clare/galway/mayo. Or is the track still uncertain until it literally makes landfall?

Martee · 23-01-2025 03:24PM

Re: wind forecasts and 10m a.g.l.

Yes but tell that to my roof and all the trees, powerlines and all the people living on upland or exposed areas who experience winds above those lower down. The risks are more relevant to structures and infrastructure than blowing someone over.

obi604 · 23-01-2025 03:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089474#Comment_123089474

old

CardinalJ · 23-01-2025 03:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089451#Comment_123089451

That is quite literally what a red warning is.

Akrasia · 23-01-2025 03:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089387#Comment_123089387

While cautioning this, local geography and topography can have effects where wind speeds can actually be much higher than the surrounding areas. This is pronounced in urban areas where the wind speeds can be accelerated:

Venturi Effect: (wind being funnelled down streets and between tall buildings

Downwash effect: Wind hitting tall buildings and being pushed downwards at higher speeds

Corner Acceleration: Wind speeds being significantly higher at the corners of buildings and streets (especially at right angles)

Basically, it's dangerous out there, don't take it for granted that the wind speeds at ground level are generally lower than those measured at 10m. You could get hit by gusts that seem to come out of nowhere if you're out in the storm, so stay indoors and prepare for the worst.

yagan · 23-01-2025 03:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089432#Comment_123089432

Everytime one of those Tulips doesn't understand "stay out of trouble for everyone's sake" I think of the scene in the IT Crowd where Douglas finds his fathers gun in the desk!

Anyhow, heavy pot plants gathered up together as best as can be, everything else put in our new steeltec shed which hopefully won't budge as it's bolted into reinforced concrete.

I hate this eerie lull bit before a storm.

Larbre34 · 23-01-2025 03:31PM

I wonder what odds you might get for a 200 km/h / 108 kt gust at an official mainland station, perhaps Belmullet, Mace Head, or Valentia?

Avon8 · 23-01-2025 03:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089490#Comment_123089490

So the advice and actions should be the exact same for Galway City which is facing Hurricane level winds and the South East which is comfortably in Orange territory?

People are complacent about Red level warnings because there's been so many of them, especially in the west. There's absolutely no comparison between this Red level warning, which is Hurricane level, and what we got pre Xmas for example (as damaging as that was)

Its not unreasonable to think there should be greater urgency to the warnings, even if everything must remain Red level as per guidelines

Rougies · 23-01-2025 03:33PM

Center in view now on Sat24

billycunnane · 23-01-2025 03:33PM

The crew of the NOAH aircraft advised that they were evacuating the aircraft to Spain because of the anticipated storm impact in Shannon.

Doesn't inspire confidence if the "hurricane hunters" are pulling out.

jj880 · 23-01-2025 03:34PM

Chattin to someone who walks the shore front earlier. Im in North Donegal. Reckons hes gettin his walk in tomorrow. I said what about the red warning. His reply: "A likely story. Weather men keeping themselves in jobs!". Not sure if he was being serious. Anyway if I hear of a lad and his dog washed off the local slí na sláinte I'll know who it is. Jaysus.

crusd · 23-01-2025 03:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089494#Comment_123089494

Another factor with a note like that saying its 50-70% at ground level is that all forecasts are for 10meters. So the 100k/h gusts you remember from a previous event that you may have felt were not too bad were also at 10meters. You may have only experienced 50-70k/h at ground level.

rob316 · 23-01-2025 03:36PM

Why do Ryanair treat customers with total contempt, still not cancelled flights from Cork tomorrow when Aer Lingus has

squarecircles · 23-01-2025 03:37PM

EOWYN

redsteveireland · 23-01-2025 03:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089451#Comment_123089451

Its the first time the management company for our estate in Galway have ever sent any correspondence that wasnt related to collecting money. They have warned people to secure anything loose outside and to stay indoors for the duration, and if properties are rented to inform the tenants of same.

Kilkenny36 · 23-01-2025 03:39PM

Of all the cities I'm now guessing Galway is the one to watch. What kind of wind speeds are we likely to see in Galway?

castletownman · 23-01-2025 03:41PM

Finally got word at around 11.30 this morning that An Post are standing down all deliveries tomorrow. Right call, but definitely took a while umming and awing about it.

I usually love the sound of swirling wind outside when I'm tucked into bed, but hoping we don't get any damage more than I ever have. Some precarious looking trees line my road

Panrich · 23-01-2025 03:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089542#Comment_123089542

And it really is annoying that gobshítes like this or some clown stuck up the side of a mountain puts rescue personnel in unnecessary harms way.

dominatinMC · 23-01-2025 03:42PM

Just checked the window stamp and it looks like they are rated C3 - if I'm reading it correctly. Here's hoping.

Simon Gruber Says · 23-01-2025 03:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089535#Comment_123089535

Yeah, because it's such a brilliant idea to base the aircraft directly in the path of the destructive storm they're recording....

crusd · 23-01-2025 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089542#Comment_123089542

No chance he is a postman?

brookers · 23-01-2025 03:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089542#Comment_123089542

I know this sounds really mean but at this stage I genuinely do not care if some stupid person who is dismissive of this storm gets injured or killed. If they want to go walking, swimming, driving etc let them. I couldn't give a hoot. Why would you even bother about them. If elderly people want to beat a path to the doctor or get their pension let them, if they are that thick and stupid they deserve to get a massive tree on top of them. The days of worrying about stupid people trying to get busses and their pensions and tablets from the doctor are over.

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