Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Yea which is why I included the following ”Yes it’s midweek in an off peak period but clearly shows the airport is operating far below capacity at times particularly in the evening.”

do you expect them to put on empty flights just because there is capacity or something?

edit: not worth it.

That's highlight whys airport use annual numbers to quantify capacity. It takes into account low/high demand over the year.
If there was no cap, there still would have been only a handful of departures at that time as there is no demand. All that hypothetical "extra capacity" at low peak time doesn't equate to more passengers if the planes are already not full at those times.

Realising an ~10% extra capacity, will likely be by widening the peak windows, not by running twice as many evening departures midweek in Jan.

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except it doesn’t highlight that at all no matter how you want to try and twist it.

This is my last post replying to you as similar to another poster it’s just not worth wasting time over. It’s been explained again and again.

A 32m cap applied on the airport because of surface access concerns. This is has absolutely zero to do with the actual capacity of Terminal 2. This was a planning condition attached to Terminal 2 AND the terminal 1 extension because of surface access concerns. Plain and simple.

In 2024 the IAA put a limit of 14m seats for winter to take into account the planning condition from T1&2. The 14m seat limit applied and wasn’t because the airport was at capacity but because it was the only way to try remain within the cap for 2024 after a very busy summer.

January 2024 2,169,000 passengers used Dublin airport including transit and transfer passengers. This equates to on average 70,000 per day over the month.

August 2024 3,635,000 passengers used Dublin airport including transit and transfer passengers. This equates to on average 117,000 per day over the month.

January 2025 numbers are expected to remain similar to 2024 because of the seat cap.

August 2025 numbers are expected to rise when compared to August 2025 - no cap. IAA and ACL determined the actual capacity available taking all infrastructure constraints into account before slots were issued to airlines. Where necessary requested slot times were adjusted and it’s up to the airlines if they wish to use them.

A 32m yearly cap does nothing to alleviate surface access concerns when a random day in August sees nearly double the passengers of that in January.

Similarly a seat cap applied to the airport in its quietest months anyway, to make it even quieter unnaturally just to remain within a yearly cap does nothing to address surface access concerns.

Ryanair chief executive, calling out the government and councils, for the wasters, that they are… He makes some points, that I have said before…

"Now, Wilson has hit out at the local council’s involvement in the planning process for the airport.

“It's a piece of national infrastructure, and our view is that it should be done at a national level, and not at a level that gets the same level of attention as an extension to someone’s house,” Wilson said.

“We've given the legal opinion before, they [government] can do this. . . it’s a vital piece of national infrastructure and they’ve done this before, they stopped us all leaving our houses during Covid, so opening up the airport is not beyond the width of what they've got to do.

“We've already given them the advice under existing legislation that the government can actually implement this, and they should get on with it.”

Are you serious? He's from the Fingal area ? You could not make this up....

The issue being sorted, means it being taken totally out of FCC hands… Let them deal with whatever other stuff that they also make a balls of, on a day to day basis, like social housing etc.. Its simply a powerplay and cash grab

Perhaps they were waiting to get the election out of the way. Given that the government are lying and could sort it out, immediately, you would think aer lingus and ryanair would have come together and said behind closed doors to government, if this isnt sorted immediately, we will create serious headaches, i.e stop flying for a day a few weeks down the road, would be easier for ryanair, as they are point to point. But you get what I am saying, the anti should have been upped on this farce, way earlier…

The cap is a joke. FCC and the government here are beyond a joke… Then you had DAA who knew about this ridiculous cap and should have acted on it sooner, but regardless, you have the perpetual problem of FCC… It does need to be sorted at national level… There can be no issue regarding a cap, if its to do with road or public transport infrastructure, which is a government decision, issue and obviously a laughable failure…

I'd say the same. I live in Swords, have all my life and nobody I know thinks about the cap at all.

In our local elections last year / couple of years ago I remember that questions put to all the councilors had the same responses about the airport. Talking about restricting flights / noise etc.

So all the councilors are on the side of the few in favour of the cap.

"…he would have turned down the Transport ministry…"

You'd have to assume he knew what was on his dance card coming in to the gig But which where he though he could spin it remains to be seen.

Eddie Wilson is a mouth piece would say anything. Even if he makes good points, it undermined by the fact Ryan Air objected to the T2/T1X … stating that the design had capacity issues. Bizarre from the cheap-ass-chips operators.

”What is likely to happen is that legislation will be passed that takes the power for planning of airports out of the hands of local authorities and instead gives it to ABP”.

That legislation already exists for strategic infrastructure such as airports. Dublin Airport was declassified as strategic infrastructure (via DAA lobbying).

It could be reclassified. But a bill would take months to push through. The quicker pathway to ABP would be to appeal the FCC decision next month.

It’s given it will be appealed even if approved. There’s a group of residents with co-ordinated objection letters, and the objectors from group include two TDs and multiple Fingal Councillors.

I believe it was because it was creating a bottleneck of people exiting the narrow hallway. Often you would have to squeeze past people who just set up camp in the middle of the hall looking at the screens. So this moves people forward and to the side allowing people to get by much more easily. They have moved some screens in the departures area for this reason too. This isnt an issue in T2 as there is more space.

Nothing happening with the cap ? Great to see this newly elected crowd, get to business with trump like efficiency